How are these things going to work? I just read in my Daytona mailer that they have to go under the rear tail, perpendicular to the axle, pointed to the ground so it can pick up the signal from the track? Is this right? Seems to me like the tire/wheel will be in the way or am I reading the rules wrong?? ??? ;D Another thing how do you strap them under a 748 Ducatis Pipes? :o Are they giong to be used at the first Roebling race? Thanks if anyone knows this stuff!!! ;D I better get there early to get this all worked out.
I need to know the dimensions/construction of the pouch too, please.
Thanks!!!!!!!!
This thread may have the answer's your looking for.
http://www.racemotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=ccs1;action=display;num=1041644946;start=
Dawn :)
Thanks, that thread did answer most of my concerns. Still I did not see where it will be mounted, under the tail or on the top? ??? I would like to know the first tracks that will be using the things. Anyone know for sure? :P
It mounts on top of tail section EXCEPT for those with carbon fiber body work or large metal under tail 748/916 have not been a problem but 125GP bikes have unsure why but that is what Tiffiney said in another post.
Okay... I went through that entire thread. Same questions remain unanswered: How is it constructed, what are the dimensions and where can I get one prior to the first race weekend???
Thanks, all!
Another question about the transponders.......am I covered by CCS if the transponder is damaged in a crash or will I be charged when I return it damaged? Not that I plan on crashing but I would like to know if it's going to cost even more to crash this year!
QuoteOkay... I went through that entire thread. Same questions remain unanswered: How is it constructed, what are the dimensions and where can I get one prior to the first race weekend???
Thanks, all!
Sorry Kim:
I thought the answer was in there. All I know is that it is a nylon pouch, I don't know the dimensions.
Dawn :)
You know you cant tear the thing up and not have to pay for it, dont you? :o
QuoteYou know you cant tear the thing up and not have to pay for it, dont you? :o
Well...that is a good question...but seems to me that if you have it on and they are MAKING you use it then it is not your fault if you crash and it is broken. just my $.02
QuoteYou know you cant tear the thing up and not have to pay for it, dont you? :o
For the increased price in entries, which we all know will not go away, CCS should be covering damage...
I hope they have enough spares to cover damage/post entries. Otherwise it would still be hand scoring, if they run out of transponders
Okay, this brings up a question. I'm getting rid of the stock plastic undertray in my tail section (would have to hack it to pieces to work with aftermarket tail section) and was building a new one out of aluminum. Will this not work with the transponders?!
Ok, so can I assume that these transponders will NOT be the same units as those little red and yellow ones used during the FUSA weekend at RA?
You know you cant tear the thing up and not have to pay for it, dont you?
I was hoping the extra $5.00 per race was going to pay for some type of transponder damage insurance! If I do damage one in a crash how much does it cost? I need to know how much cash to bring to the track.
According to the rule book:
...The unit then becomes the riders responsibility until returned at the conclusion of the riders final race or the conclusion of the event, which ever comes first. Failure to return unit will result in a fine equal to the replacement cost plus $100...
Doesn't say anything about damage. Seems I won't get fined as long as I return it. Doesn't say it has to be functioning.
As far as mounting, the rules do allow alternate locations. I have an aluminum tray in my tailsection, I am planning on hanging it underneath at the rear of the tailsection (depends on what the bag looks like - would prefer some sort of mounting bracket).
I guess if I return all the pieces I won't be charged. Maybe that's why it mounts to the bike in a bag, you won't lose any small pieces during a crash! ;D
It sure would be nice if CCS posted a picture and a drawing of the transponder bag along with dimensions and mounting instructions.
QuoteOkay, this brings up a question. I'm getting rid of the stock plastic undertray in my tail section (would have to hack it to pieces to work with aftermarket tail section) and was building a new one out of aluminum. Will this not work with the transponders?!
*BUMP* ???
Will I be able to mount it under the tail like tzracer?
Why not? It is really up to the tech inspecotr if the location is ok. I have not been through tech yet so I don't know what they will say. My plan is to attach under neath near the back so the rear tire cannot hit it.
My main concern is spending hours building the undertail and not being able to use it.
I removed the plastic part, made my own aluminum pan, battery box and various mounts for the electronics (it is nice having access to a metal cutting laser). The rules say "The ESU is considered to be properly mounted if it is securely fastened to the rear tail section perpendicular (to) the rear axle and the signal can be read from the ground antenna"
It does not say where on the rear tailsection to mount it (top or bottom) only that it has to be securely mounted.
Are they using the electronic scoring in the FL region?
the ones we used in Vegas last year (a trial run, i guess) were plastic boxes about the size of a pack of cigarettes. The came inside a black nylon pouch with a flap on one end, so you could mount a pouch to each of your bikes and easily swap the transponder between bikes. the flap snaps shut with one of those grommet/twist lock things. To mount the pouch to the bike, there were two flaps on the sides of the pouch with grommets in them.
I just used zip ties to attach it to the underside of my SV's tailsection, where i have a homemade aluminum/fiberglass "shelf" that holds the electronics and catch bottle and closes off the bottom of the sharkskinz tail.
Thanks guys! I think I have my answer now.
tzracer, I'll be sending you the specs for my undertail since you have that fancy "la-ser". LOL ;)
Would be nice if the bags were blaze orange too. Just in case one decides to go bye bye during a crash. ;D