Linky-poo (http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=29014)
Discuss.
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Oh boy! :)
I thought Denning had his 600 just under 10?
ROFLMAO...
When I read that yesterday I KNEW there would be comments.
Would have only been better with a Brian Hall quote of "and then we packed up the 12' trailer and went home. We stopped at Taco Bell along the way".
:lmao:
Quote from: Jeff on May 15, 2007, 10:50:22 AM
Would have only been better with a Brian Hall quote of "and then we packed up the 12' trailer and went home. We stopped at Taco Bell along the way".
:lmao:
Quoted for posterity! :) Good stuff right there!
Quote from: r1owner on May 15, 2007, 11:19:51 AM
Quoted for prosperity! :) Good stuff right there!
Prosperity or posterity? :wtf: :biggrin:
Jim talked to Denning....the fastest he has ever gone on a 600 was 10.6
It is interesting that Bobby caught Brian in a handful of laps from the 5th and 6th row and passed him and went on to win both races....others didn't do that:)
Quote from: spyderchick on May 15, 2007, 11:24:16 AM
Prosperity or posterity? :wtf: :biggrin:
WHOOOPPPS! hehe
:preachon:
Well either way it all doesn't matter about the lap times because I know I'll be doing 9's there the weekend after Road America in June. I'm sure others will also be doing 9's too. I was almost there on Sunday. I already know I wasn't riding my hardest yet plus my setup wasn't right until the last race of which the track got greasy from coolant. If qualifiying was still there it would make it much easier to run faster times since there is less worry about slower riders ruining a great lap.
We'll duke it out then. For now let the BSing commence!
No one will really knows until CCS actually make official announcements. You think that CCS would want to make it official that there series has the fastest riders on that track right?
I did a 10.6 there in 2004 and Mark Junge beat it later that day with a 10.5.
I wasn't there when Dan did a 10.0 and nobody made an official announcement. So bad on Dan for not making a Press Release or CCS for not making a Press release.
All I have to say about Dan's time is that it wasn't publicly known. Last I knew was Mark Junge still owned it going into this weekend.
Kevin made a statement about the last known record and that Bobby Fong (hats off to his time for never being there before) did a 10.3 who beat the last known record.
I attended several races last year and watched many weekends and only saw one weekend where someone actually did a high ten. Race paces were usually in the 11's sometimes 12's.
So all in all the times overall have fallen and will keep falling with the new tires and bikes.
I can't wait for the next round. Count me in for some high 9's for sure.
Bring on your A game next time everyone.
CCS better have an official scoring method ready. :thumb:
By the way I also did a 10.3 and low /mid 10's on Sunday. I did that time while I was royally pissed off trying to catch Brian Hall because I got the meatball flag for doing a power wheelie out of the pit on the hot lap.
I need to clarify what went down there. I left first and hammered out of the pits doing a power wheelie. I actually now am using a quick shifter for the first time and when the front tire was up I just grabbed another gear and it kept going. Well according to tons of witnesses my teammate Brian Hall & Ryan Johnson also grabbed a couple hammer down wheelies out of the pits.
Pit marshall then told my pit crew along with many others to watch out because they were bringing 2 bikes into the pits of which were myself & Brian Hall for doing wheelies leaving the pits.
Well after nailing a great start from the 3rd rowI ended up second behind brian coming out of the last turn. I saw a meatball flag but didn't bother looking because I knew I didn't jump the start anyways.
Next lap I saw it a again & saw my number. Man was I pissed! I had no choice but to pull in. I pulled in and took off for the front again. I was back in 3rd on that same lap. I caught & passed Johnson in 2 more laps to put myself back in 2nd. I set off for Brian but didn't have enough time to catch him. During all that ran a string of my fastest laps & I managed a 10.6 - 10.5-10.4-10.3 all while running turn 1 too hot everytime.
I wouldn't have been able to run those times sitting behind Brian because I didn't have the power to get around him.
I mean hats off Brian's & Johnson's riding this weekend. I think I had a little more than they did since I caught them so quick. Brian had some good power this weekend so I lost ground on the straights. Damn I got to twist the throttle further right?
Now why Brian or Johnson didn't get a stop & go penalty is beyond me. What is the definition of a wheelie? I admit if that is the stupid rule then I broke it. But why just me? A wheelie is a wheelie if the front tire comes off the ground it breaks the rule right?
I guess to me I was the fastest so make it fair and give it to me right? Pit marshalls said they were bringing us both in but only I got the penalty. According to control tower I was the only one they saw. I say Bullshit because they were right on my ass.
All I have to say CCS is "Tell it like it is" don't sit up in the tower and feed lines of shit. Tell us the real reason it happend.
Don't even get me started about the ambulance incident or the blue flag thing at the riders meeting!
Quote from: J Farrell / Speed Tech Motorsp on May 15, 2007, 12:13:04 PMTell us the real reason it happend.
You're on to them J... The man's just keepin a brotha down..
(sorry... I've been in the same boat only I got fined when the rest didn't. Such is life)
I must say it's nice the GP region uses those AMB transponders then upload everything to mylaps.com -Snack
I think Mark's lap record might be a 1:08:9. He did it on the Wegman weekend 2004.
I've only done a 10.6 on a 600 and 9.3 on a R1.
And I wont go any faster the next time I'm not there. :)
Bobby was going extremely well for his first visit to Blackhawk.
I think there should be just one lap record though. The fastest one.
Quote from: lightnin_larry on May 15, 2007, 02:07:26 PM
I think Mark's lap record might be a 1:08:9. He did it on the Wegman weekend 2004.
I've only done a 10.6 on a 600 and 9.3 on a R1.
And I wont go any faster the next time I'm not there. :)
Bobby was going extremely well for his first visit to Blackhawk.
I think there should be just one lap record though. The fastest one.
+1
A lot of tracks (Road America initially comes to mind) keeps lap records for every class. Someone who sets a Formula Ford lap record should be acknowledged as they have no chance of ever getting close to the overall track record set by a Champ Car. I could see the same for 600's v 1000's.
I have it in my head that the 1000 record is 1:08.?? and the 600 is 1:09.??.
But my head is not what it used to be...
WOW i almost missed all of this being out of town . Dan couldn't do a flat 10 if he fell out of a 747. The thing that is funny is that little Bobby Fong all 16 years old that has never been to Blackhawk was able to do a 10:3 and at least another 15 laps in the 10:5/6 range. Lets make it clear never been there before. It was fun watching him from row 5 come around in 2nd place in the GTO race in the 1st lap where i was watching in 3a . It's so funny when a newcomer shows up and spanks that's right spanks the local boys. Not to take anything away from Brian but he had nothing on Bobby and the last few laps or so just let bobby go. You have to remember Bobby will probably never be there so the points don't matter. Now i wish we would have stayed for Sunday as i am sure he would have did 9's no problem. The best part is he rode the Fontana setup with no changes. Lets just give the kid his kudos as he had a good couple of races. I look forward to seeing everyone at Road America , if you think he did well at Blackhawk wait till Road America , he has never been there before either. Jim
Heather , it was great seeing you and Stumpy and Hayden!
Quote from: lightnin_larry on May 15, 2007, 02:07:26 PMI think there should be just one lap record though. The fastest one.
Agreed, and it should be announced / verified by a track official or the sanctioning body of the event.
Anybody can
say they broke the track record.
How about we just say that Hall, Farrell, Johnson and Fong all went very fast last weekend.
Quote from: Jeff on May 15, 2007, 10:50:22 AM
ROFLMAO...
When I read that yesterday I KNEW there would be comments.
Would have only been better with a Brian Hall quote of "and then we packed up the 12' trailer and went home. We stopped at Taco Bell along the way".
:lmao:
Your right Jeff the Semi was the deciding Factor and the Tacos at Alvarez's we had Saturday night are the s*it
Dan's bike was 599cc.
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PMWOW i almost missed all of this being out of town . Dan couldn't do a flat 10 if he fell out of a 747.
Jim, sometimes you would be better off refraining from saying anything.
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PMThe thing that is funny is that little Bobby Fong all 16 years old that has never been to Blackhawk was able to do a 10:3 and at least another 15 laps in the 10:5/6 range. Lets make it clear never been there before.
I'm not sure I see the humor here but, your right Bobby is fast and has done well in learning new tracks. It looks like he's got the potential to do very well in the sport.
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PMIt's so funny when a newcomer shows up and spanks that's right spanks the local boys. Not to take anything away from Brian but he had nothing on Bobby and the last few laps or so just let bobby go.
You have to remember Bobby will probably never be there so the points don't matter. Now i wish we would have stayed for Sunday as i am sure he would have did 9's no problem.
Now you're just trash talking and sound like a dick. If you think what you said here isn't taking anything away from Brian then you really are an idiot. No doubt Bobby ran really well but to say he spanked everyone is a bit of an over-statement.
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PMThe best part is he rode the Fontana setup with no changes.
Doesn't matter to anyone here.
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PMLets just give the kid his kudos as he had a good couple of races.
Absolutely, kudos to Bobby!
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PMI look forward to seeing everyone at Road America , if you think he did well at Blackhawk wait till Road America , he has never been there before either. Jim
See ya there
Quote from: J Farrell / Speed Tech Motorsp on May 15, 2007, 11:45:11 AM
So bad on Dan for not making a Press Release or CCS for not making a Press release.
Hey Jason, I didn't think it was a big deal...it wasn't the fastest lap around the place...I guess I could (should) of made a big deal about it...Tho I pulled that one out of my ass catching Brian. He was starting to check out like he likes to do...lol
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PM
Dan couldn't do a flat 10 if he fell out of a 747.
:finger: I couldn't do 1:10 on a 4&6 built bike it would blow up before I got finished with the lap. So Jim go F**K yourself!!!!!!
Quote from: lightnin_larry on May 15, 2007, 02:07:26 PM
I think there should be just one lap record though. The fastest one.
Good call.
This whole thread is BS.... you do know if CCS would step up the AMB timers we all could just go and look up the lap times.
I just got off the phone with Eric at CCS they don't have lap times from old races. I guess they only have the fastest lap on file. So I really don't have anything to stand on for my claim...After that race I asked timing and scoring to see the lap time and I did a 1:10.008 according to CCS' sheet. I think Allison got a 1:10.1 on her stopwatch but it is what it is. Plus people came up to me after that race about my flyer cuz they were talking about it over the PA.
I'm not going to make a big deal about it. It's old news cuz I'm sure it's gonna be 9s next time. So I'm gonna have my work cut out for me when I come back!
Don't we run transponders here?? It should be pretty easy to find out the truth about all this shouldn't it?
The existing transponders for CCS (well, the non-AMB ones) are lacking on the software side when it comes to keeping track of things like time and position... It's a flaw that CCS is well aware of.
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:22:35 PM
Your right Jeff the Semi was the deciding Factor and the Tacos at Alvarez's we had Saturday night are the s*it
I just found the comment funny Jim. Nothing more... You guys had the coolest setup to grace BHF in my attendance so far...
I'll go back to eating popcorn and watching this trainwreck now. :cheers:
Okay, so the paid (or is he paying for his ride?) rider in the semi went faster than the club racer in a pickup and 12' trailer? Sweet!
Sounds like Junge is still faster by over a full second, Larry pays way more attention to stuff like that than most people so I trust him on it. Of course that was 3 years ago so maybe it shouldn't count, after all the 04 models were way faster weren't they?
I was just happy to get into the 10's , with a 1'10.7, beating my previous best time of 11.6. Props to Brian, Jason, and Bobby for going even faster!!
I had a great weekend, and alot of fun......see you all next time! Hope we can all get into the 9's and have some great battles and provide some great racing to watch for anyone who is watching.
Congrats on dropping your best time that much! That's definitely cool.
Quote from: Johnson on May 15, 2007, 05:43:28 PM
I was just happy to get into the 10's , with a 1'10.7, beating my previous best time of 11.6.
RJ you got into the 10s Kick ASS nice job!!!!
I saw you running with Jason and Brian in that last MW race I kinda figured you broke the 10s.
Nice job Ryan!!! :cheers:
Tim
I think last time there, I did a 1:20.0. Last I heard, it was the lap record for 39 year old bald chiropractors over 200 lbs who ride 2003 Ducati 749s :lmao:. :ahhh:
Hats off to Ryan. I was surprised to see him running with me during the MWSS race. Damn. I better step up my game somehow huh!
I know a 10.0 is possible & honestly Jim I'm sure Dan did do the time, plus I won't added anything to the comment about a motor lasting! I don't like knockin people but you set yourself up for that one Jim. Why point out the spec in someones eye & not look at the spec in your own eye!
Hats off to Spyder Leatherworks for fixing up my leathers again so I had confidence to go fast & for starting a open can of worms with this thread!!
I guess this kind of writing is good since it is going make everyone want to go for the record next time. I know I am going for mid to low 9's by the end of the season. S#*t I should go for 8's huh!
Why do we care about lap records? I thought Bobby Fong won GTU? Regardless of the time, he was the best in that class, that day, that track.
I am still pretty impressed that he could crap a time like he did having never been to the track.
Press releases? Well, I think as of Saturday, Bobby's time was the fastest ever 600 time. Then that changed on Sunday? Doesn't really matter.
nope! it doesnt matter dave
If it didn't matter, then why is there a press release on the subject? I don't believe anyone brought it up here prior to the first release going out....
Ha! I held the fastest lap on the new layout at BHF for 3 months on a stock XR 100! Of course that was set on Jan 1st, several years ago. But, who cares ..................
:pop:
Press is good. That's good for Bobby, that's good for Safety First.
It's also good for CCS racers at Blackhawk, Blackhawk Farms, and CCS.
CCS doesn't bother getting any write ups at Blackhawk even though it can be argued that it's one of it's most important venues for it's finacial well being. It's close to the Chicago, Milwaukee, etc. market and has been a source for a lot of entries five to six times every year for a period that has been approaching two decades.
So press is good even if it's factually incorrect? Doesn't make sense to me.
I don't know if I would call it factually incorrect considering there seems to be widespread disagreement to what the facts may be. Rather there is a debate on what the lap record actually is and by whom.
In any event, it would be nice in the future if the sanctioning body would take the appropriate measures to capture, record and publish / release this type of information in order to avoid this scenario.
Does WERA offer any type of training classes to other orgs?
If we didn't care about the small details, people wouldn't bitch about Nicky Hayden as a MotoGP world champion, or George Bush as a president... (well, okay, they'd still bitch about W).
Good Press? I don't know that I see it that way Dave... It was good until it was corrected.
Anybody can claim anything. The issue is providing fact to back it up. In this case that's lacking on pretty much all accounts. The FACT that people ran (subjectively) FAST remains, but that wasn't the point of the story...
Quote from: G 97 on May 16, 2007, 07:52:57 AM
Does WERA offer any type of training classes to other orgs?
I think WERA is retraining the uneducated right now!
(all bodies removed from accident scene)
Funny as the comments are lets keep the sanctioning bodies out of it. Thanks!
So ccs doesn't keep the lap times from previous years? if the did a simple computer program would reveal the fastest lap in each class.
I do find it amusing that an Professional AMA team did a press release bragging about going to a club race and setting a lap record....and they may not even have been correct. Whoops.
Big props to Bobby for being able to run those kind of times on his first trip to the track. But the team sure didn't do itself (or him) and PR favors by releasing that press release. (nor by coming back and bad mouth other riders in this thread) (just my view as a slow assed am)
Quote from: Helmsman on May 16, 2007, 12:28:56 PM
So ccs doesn't keep the lap times from previous years? if the did a simple computer program would reveal the fastest lap in each class.
Honestly theres no reason to keep them other than the overall track record.
BTW hows the shoulder?
If I read it on the Internet it must be TRUE!!! :jerkoff:
These are the only track records I accept even though they're from 1994!!
Remember, if you read it on the internet it must be true!
Race Track Location
Rider Time Speed Event
Machine Date Tuner
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Blackhawk Farms Raceway S. Beloit, IL.
Bob Meister 1:13.70 92.833 mph AMA-CCS Sprint
1992 Yamaha OW01/FZR1000 9-12-93 Tony Tice
Bonneville Raceway Salt Lake City, UT.
Shane Turpin 1:01.58 87.69 mph USBA Sprint
1992 Yamaha FZR 1000 9-13-92 Mike Hennessy
Brainerd Int'l Raceway Brainerd, MN.
Doug Polen 1:39.858 108.154 mph AMA Superbike
1992 Ducati 888 6-13-92 Eraldo Ferracci
Bremerton Raceway Bremerton, WA.
Shawn Roberti 0:53.5 67.26 mph WMRRA Sprint
1994 Yamaha YZF 750 9-11-94 Mike Velasco
Bridgehampton Raceway Long Island, NY.
Dale Quarterley 1:40.16 100.64 mph AMA/CCS Sprint
1992 Kawasaki ZX-7R 9-6-92 Dale Quarterley
Charlotte Motor Speedway Concord, NC.
Tom Kipp 1:21.301 99.630 mph AMA Superbike
1993 Honda RC30 5-1-91 Al Ludington
Coos Bay Int'l Speedway Coos Bay, OR.
Josh Bryan 0:47.10 mph RAM Sprint
1989 FZR 600 9-10-94 Ron Hopkins
Daytona Int'l Speedway Daytona Beach, FL.
Pascal Picotte 1:50.068 116.437 mph AMA Superbike
1994 Ducati 955 3-3-94 Eraldo Ferracci
Firebird Int'l Raceway Chandler, AZ.
Mark Foster 1:11.46 80.60 mph AMA-CCS Sprint
1993 Yamaha TZ 250 5-16-93 Matt Flanagan/Dave Kinison
Gateway Int'l Raceway E. St. Louis, IL.
Tray Batey 1:35.75 82.70 mph WERA Sprint
1994 Suzuki GSXR 750 6-19-94 Ron Scrima
Grattan Raceway Grattan, MI.
Kurt Hall 1:24.03 85.653 mph WERA Sprint
1992 Suzuki GSXR 1100 6-28-92 Keith Perry
Gray's Harbor Street Course Aberdeen, WA.
Keith Pinkstaff 0:56.4 63.83 mph WMRRA Sprint
1994 Kawasaki ZX-7 8-7-94 Zlock Bros.
Hallett Motor Racing Circuit Hallett, OK.
Sam McDonald 1:20.05 80.953 mph AMA/CCS Sprint
1987 Yamaha FZ 750 6-25-88 Larry Kano
Hawaii Raceway Park Ewa Beach, HI.
Ed Sorbo 55.28 84.66 mph WERA Sprint
1993 Yamaha TZ 250 9-11-94 Ed Sorbo
Heartland Park Topeka Topeka, KS.
Scott Russell 1:45.656 85.182 mph AMA Superbike
1990 Kawasaki ZX-7 9-9-90 Gary Medley
Indianapolis Raceway Park Indianapolis, IN.
David Sadowski 1:34.64 95.099 mph WERA F-USA
1994 Honda CBR 900RR 7-24-94 Mike Velasco
Laguna Seca Raceway Monterey, CA.
Kevin Schwantz 1:25.838 92.099 mph USGP 1990
Suzuki RGVr 500 4-8-90 Simon Tonge
Las Vegas Speedrome Las Vegas, NV.
Chuck Graves 0:58.80 91.836 mph AMA-CCS Sprint
1993 Suzuki GSXR 1100 9-5-93 Chuck Graves
Memphis Motorsports Park Millington, TN.
Kevin Schwantz 1:07.07 95.008 mph AMA Superbike
1987 Suzuki GSXR 750 8-9-87 Don Sakakura
Miami Street Circuit Miami, FL.
Freddie Spencer 1:14.184 73.277 mph AMA Superbike
1991 Honda RC 30 10-9-91 Mike Velasco
Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course Lexington, OH.
Colin Edwards 1:29.176 96.887 mph US Superbike
1994 Yamaha YZF 750 7-16-94 Mitch Leonard/Jim Leonard
Moroso Motorsports Park W. Palm Beach, FL.
Rich Oliver 1:20.00 101.275 mph WERA F-USA
1990 Yamaha YZR 500 9-22-91 Brian Turfrey
Mountain View Park Longmont, CO.
Mark Schellinger 1:02.14 98.493 mph MRA Sprint
1993 Yamaha OW01/FZR1000 7-31-94 Mark Schellinger
Nelson Ledges Road Course Garrettsville, OH.
Tom Kipp 1:11.40 100.84 mph WERA Sprint
1990 Suzuki GSXR 1100 9-2-90 Dave Schlosser
New Hampshire Int'l Raceway Loudon, NH.
Troy Corser 1:14.109 77.723 mph US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955 6-18-94 Eraldo Ferracci
North Carolina Motor Speedway Rockingham, NC.
Mike Harth 1:01.04 88.469 mph WERA Sprint
1988 Suzuki GSXR 1100 5-29-88 Jim LaBine
Oak Hill Raceway Henderson, TX.
Colin Edwards 1:25.99 75.366 mph CRRC Sprint
1994 Yamaha YZF 750 5-1-94 Kevin Stasny
Phoenix Int'l Raceway Phoenix, AZ.
Troy Corser 1:02.532 86.931 mph US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955 3-26-94 Eraldo Ferracci
Pocono Int'l Raceway Long Pond, PA.
Michael Martin 1:33.40 96.363 mph WERA F-USA
1992 Suzuki GSXR 1100 8-23-92 Keith Perry
Pomona Fairplex Pomona, CA.
Troy Corser 1:22.50 91.636 mph US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955 4-10-94 Eraldo Ferracci
Portland Int'l Raceway Portland, OR.
David Sadowski 1:06.60 103.783 mph WERA F-USA
1994 Honda CBR 900RR 8-28-94 Mike Velasco
Pueblo Motorsports Park Pueblo, CO.
Don Hough 1:35.29 85.004 mph MRA Sprint
1991 Yamaha FZR 1000 7-11-93 Ron Hough
Putnam Park Road Course Mt. Meridian, IN.
Tray Batey 1:13.50 88.16 mph WERA Sprint
1994 Suzuki GSXR 1100 7-10-94 Keith Perry
Road America Elkart Lake, WI.
Pascal Picotte 2:15.993 105.888 mph US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955 6-10-94 Eraldo Ferracci
Road Atlanta Braselton, GA.
Colin Edwards 1:21.409 111.437 mph US Superbike
1994 Yamaha YZF 750 9-17-94 Jim Leonard/Mitch Leonard
Roebling Road Raceway Faulkville, GA.
Scott Russell 1:15.56 100.08 mph WERA Sprint
1988 Suzuki GSXR 1100 4-30-89 Vic Fasola
Sears Point Raceway Sonoma, CA.
Troy Corser 1:40.855 89.237 mph US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955 8-20-94 Eraldo Ferracci
Seattle Int'l Raceway Kent, WA.
Keith Pinkstaff 1:28.30 92.12 mph WMRRA Sprint
1994 Kawasaki ZX-7 6-12-94 Zlock Bros
Sebring Int'l Raceway Sebring, FL.
Rick Herndon 1:27.30 74.23 mph FGPRA Sprint
1989 Suzuki GSXR 1100 6-25-89 Rick Herndon
Second Creek Raceway Denver, CO.
Don Hough 1:09.92 90.105 mph MRA Sprint
1991 Yamaha FZR 1000 10-3-93 Ron Hough
Steamboat Springs Steamboat Springs, CO.
Don Hough 1:22.48 69.82 mph MRA Sprint
1994 Yamaha TZ 250 9-18-94 Ron Hough
Summit Point Raceway Summit Point, WV.
Glenn Szarek 1:18.33 91.92 mph WERA Sprint
1994 Yamaha FZR 1000 5-1-94 Glenn Szarek
Talladega Gran Prix Raceway Talladega, AL.
Tray Batey 0:57.65 81.182 mph SESBRA track day
1993 Yamaha YZF 1000 11-3-93 Robert Nutt
Talladega Super Speedway Talladega, AL.
Jamie James 2:06.50 113.83 mph AMA-CCS Endur
1989 Suzuki GSXR 1100 10-15-89 George Fitz
Texas World Speedway College Station, TX.
Freddie Spencer 1:07.264 96.337 mph AMA Superbike
Honda RC 30 5-29-92 Mike Velasco
Watkins Glen Int'l Watkins Glen, NY.
Jeff James 1:32.34 93.56 mph WERA Sprint
1986 Yamaha FZ 750 8-2-86 Jeff James
Wheels Raceway San Angelo, TX.
Michael Martin 1:26.66 83.083 mph CRRC Sprint
1990 Yamaha FZR 600 9-30-90 Ron Scrima
Willow Springs Raceway Rosamond, CA.
Chuck Graves 1:24.50 106.511 mph WSMC Sprint
1993 Suzuki GSXR 1100 12-18-94 Tony Romo
Wisconsin State Fairgrounds Milwaukee, WI.
Ray Yoder 1:18.68 77.80 mph WERA Sprint
1988 Suzuki GSXR 1100 7-9-88 Ray Yoder
Fastest Tracks
1. Daytona Int'l Speedway 116.437 mph
2. Talladega Super Speedway 113.830 mph
3. Road Atlanta 111.437 mph
4. Brainerd Int'l Raceway 108.154 mph
5. Willow Springs 106.511 mph
:thumb:
the interwebs are the bomb!
Ha! That's the list Larry Lawrence put together.
Holy flashbacks Batman!!! that's back when I was still old.And Troy still runs up front
people have asked CCS to keep track of this stuff for years...........it's not important to them so it must not be important to anyone. :ass:
Quote from: weggieman on May 20, 2007, 12:33:52 PM
people have asked CCS to keep track of this stuff for years...........it's not important to them so it must not be important to anyone. :ass:
The June 2007 Issue of RRW, Page #153, lower right hand corner...
"Event Lap Times Now Available by E-Mail"
If you attended any ASRA or CCS event.....blah blah blah...
It looks like CCS/ASRA HAS the information, you just have to E-Mail them to get it...
If they would send me the files, I'd get them up on the web in a couple of minutes.
Woohoo! I'm faster than all them guys (except Picotte) at my tracks.
Quote from: fourandsix on May 15, 2007, 03:19:36 PM
It's so funny when a newcomer shows up and spanks that's right spanks the local boys. The best part is he rode the Fontana setup with no changes.
So he rode the Fontana setup and got spanked, that's right, spanked by the AMA boys. Was that part just as funny for you Jim?
Not trying to bring up bad karma here, but here are the laptimes that I have for BHF. Just got them today.
http://laptimes.dorightsoftware.com/laptimes/scripts/default.aspx
Nice job Scott! :thumb:
Hope the data is getting easier to work with!
Rick
That is pretty cool!
must.... not.... comment...
Quote from: r1owner on June 05, 2007, 07:11:02 PM
Not trying to bring up bad karma here, but here are the laptimes that I have for BHF. Just got them today.
http://laptimes.dorightsoftware.com/laptimes/scripts/default.aspx
Am i the only one who doesn't actually see any lap times? Just has a drop box for the track, and the date....but no times or anything. I don't really care about this discussion....but just wanted to see.
try dropping down the Blackhawk date to 5/12 :thumb:
Quote from: tstruyk on June 06, 2007, 10:50:59 AM
try dropping down the Blackhawk date to 5/12 :thumb:
Ahh thanks.
I be stupid. :)
In other related news, can I just say that Stumpy and I were VERY impressed with Bobby Fong again this weekend at RA.
He's just a good old fashioned fast kid. Gotta love it!
Quote from: Jeff on June 06, 2007, 09:54:58 AM
must.... not.... comment...
Come on! Not even one of your butter jokes?!
" Jim and Kevin went into Siebkins..."?!
:pop:
Holy shit!!
how fast is Jason Farrell?
1 1:13.562
2 1:10.452
3 1:16.827
4 1:12.482
5 1:10.774
6 1:10.440
7 1:10.374
8 1:10.678
He did a stop and go on lap three, and still clocked a 1:16
Then followed it up with a 1:12 FROM A STANDING START IN HOT PIT!!!
Wow....
The laptimes are now sortable by clicking on a column header in the grid.
There's lot of room for improvement, so let me know if you see stuff you would like to see.
For instance, would people want the ability to export their individual laptimes to a CSV file, etc.
Would anyone have use for a format that would show a table of all times for all riders in a lap by lap format? This way you could check on each lap against the people you were running with.
Something like this:
TRACK: Blackhawk Race: MWSS Date: 5/13/2007
Lap
# Name ....1.... ....2.... ....3.... ....4.... ....5....
204A Don Casey 1:18.61 1:17.74 1:17.83 1:17.48 1:17.07
111A Tom Jones 1:16.75 1:16.22 1:15.90 1:15.25 1:15.52
202E Wally Lund 1:11.24 1:11.17 1:10.88 1:10.73 1:10.83
24E Joe Smiley 1:14.51 1:14.32 1:13.97 1:13.65 1:13.82
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Yeah Rick, I was kind of thinking of doing something like mylaps does where they list the riders position by lap and shows their position by lap. I like the layout you propose here too.
Yep...the nice thing is Bobby has never been to Road America before.......and that was his first time riding in the rain....EVER!
Scotty did a great job as well....he went 1.5 seconds faster than he has ever gone at Road America and keeps improving every weekend. I think a lot of people will be surprised by him by the end of the season because he is really committed to racing and listens and then goes and applies it.
I think people forget how hard it is to race at the AMA level.......look at how the local guys finished at Road America.
In Supersport alone there are 18 factory or factory supported riders.....when Tommy Hayden finishes tenth that tells you something.
FX has 12 factory or factory supported riders this year.
There are a lot of people out there that can go fast at there home track and get waxed running an AMA season.....Willow Springs is a potential case in point. Some guys absolutely fly there and struggle elsewhere.
There is so much more to racing than having big cahones and twisting the throttle...I think people learn at the AMA level there are so many other factors that come into play into being sucessful....i.e. nutrition, training, bike preperation, mechanics and crew, breaking down a track and studying what bumps to avoid, etc.....
It's racing...if it were easy everybody would be doing it! The same goes with being a team owner...its way easier just being a rider and racing......people have no idea what it takes to survive in this industry......thats why you see a lot of riders and team owners that last 2-2.5 years in the AMA or even at club racing.
It's still the coolest sport in world......and I'm still working on my 12 step program with this disease!
Kevin, I have to agree with your comments on Scotty. Now, I'm not cheerleader for anyone, but I will say that I've been impressed with how well he has done playing with the big-boys. It's obviously a good match of personalities all the way around.
I think one of the biggest eye openers for me as an owner was dealing with all of the different personalities. Essentially, I am a glorified babysitter a lot of times.
Minimizing the drama in a race weekend is really hard to do, but has to be done to be sucessful. You are bringing together so many different personalities....people who work full time together, people who help just for the weekend and everyone really has to get along.
People come from very different backgrounds in how they were raised....for example one person's view of being clean and picking up is different from anothers. Its all of the little things like "I don't want to sleep in a hotel room with him because he snores or gets up too early etc...." that really brake a team down. It's not the big stuff.....its stuff like he ate my donut....that creates rift and turns into a disease that permeates everyone on the team and goes on to effect the riders.
Think of how hard it is trying to get a group of 10-12 people to decide on where to go eat and amplify that ten fold for a race weekend all day long after working long hours.
You walk over to the Yoshimura truck and they experience the same stuff......it's just being able to deal with it and keep everyone focused on the big picture and ONLY WORRYING about their job that they are responsible for....not everyone else. Once people focus on their assignment then you can be successful.
I'm really lucky this year because I have two riders that get along really well together. It's funny because they are almost like brothers and they really try and help each other out.....in return they both go faster in the races. Too many riders don't want to help their teammate....I agree that race day is everyman for himself, but if riders would work together leading up to the race you are sharing double the information and it helps both of you to be successful.....a lot of riders don't get that. Their first goal is to beat their teammate and refuse to share any information and totally miss the point.
Just a little glimpse of behind the scenes....the hard thing is you learn this on the job and nobody really prepares you for it so the school of hard knocks really comes into play and can be extremely costly to learn a lesson sometimes.
your right i't sounds like my truck shop they go from hiding shoes to trying kill each other.I could only imagine if they had to room together.