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Ducati Omaha is doing its best to encourage racers to join the rapidly growing group of riders who will be racing next season in the Great Plains and Mid-West regions lightweight classes for 2008. We want to create a class that will be fun for all involved. :biggrin:
So far this winter we've supplied seven riders with lightweight class machines that we are actively prepping for their use. It looks like three or four more are on the fence right now. We also know of two others who have sourced machines elsewhere. If you are a track day rider or racer in either of these two race regions and would like to know more about how you can get involved feel free to contact us at (402) 408-4400. This is a great time to get involved and have some big fun for not so much money. We will take used bikes in trade for those who have those concerns, even RC51's and 600's. :thumb:
Make plans now to join the folks who are going to have a great time racing and riding together in 2008 :thumb: This is going to be one of the most fun classes to be part of in the Great Plains Region next season. 8)
I'd like to race that Paul Smart of yours! Thats a nice bike. You guys are doing a great job up there, and congrats on the Ducati dealer award!
Which Ducati is everyone running in LW?
Can it make 95-100hp?
How much do they list for?
Is there contingency?
ummmm......was that a jab at me?
Quote from: Ducati23 on December 19, 2007, 03:26:24 PM
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We will take used bikes in trade for those who have those concerns, even RC51's and 600's. :thumb:
So Clayton, are all the bikes you are prepping Ducatis? I know you had a fair number of SVs at one time.
BTW, for those keeping score, add 1(me) to the LW contigent for next year if I can move my left wrist enough to control a bike. I have an old SV I'll be running so I'll be jealous of all the new pretty Ducs for sure. If we can get a good LW grid going in the GP region, that will be awesome!
So far every one is a Ducati save one G2 SV that a new rider wanted. We still have a couple more G1 SV's and a couple of SS available. The majority of the guys wanted Ducati's to prevent being pulled off the corners like happens with SV's against the Ducs. We've done some upgrade work to a few SV's that don't want to left by the stronger Duc's. They can be competitive if they make a few more ponies and a good rider. :thumb:
Shun has his Paul Smart and is now expert, Jarel has a nice Monster and I'll be on a 1000SS. I've been working out and dieting like a mad man now >70lbs lost since last June. :thumb: Dave Tyrrell & Jay Hanson picked up 1000SS race bikes from somewhere else. Should be a great time with so many lightweights out there. I spoke with Dan Jasa about a Duc. Hopefully this is a good strong trend. We want to generate real excitement and make racing enjoyable by populating the lightweight classes with good people. Leave the 600's to all those folks who are trying become famous or heros. It'd be nice to have a class where nearly everyone is friends and can have a relatively high level of confidence in the riders around them. I'm fairly sure Anthony, Rebecca and Chris will be back in lightweight so grids should be somewhat larger than last season. :biggrin:
Ok, nice post but you didn't answer but one of my questions and I'm not sure that was fully answered either - so I'll clarify:
Which Ducatis run in LWSS, LWSBK, LWGP, GT LIGHTS, LWF40?
Can they make 95-100hp? Because this is what it will take to win
How much do they list for?
Is there Ducati contingency?
Which Ducati is everyone running in LW? Any air cooled twin, mostly SS models 900's and 1000's but some Sport Classic's and Monsters, we'd like to see someone run a Hypermotard!
Can it make 95-100hp?Yes, dual plug heads <on models not equipped stock>, Hi comp pistons and cams usually get 90 to 100 hp, pretty much everyone has pipes and tuning. Remember most Ducatis already have good Brembo's with SS lines and good suspension. Add rearsets and mods as you see fit - go racing.
How much do they list for? Cost varies greatly depending on where you start, typically about $6k or 7k but we have seen it done for less than 5k with a used 900ss,of course you can always spend more a Paul Smart with the race kit can cost nearly 20k
Is there contingency?
I think Suzuki and Kawasaki are paying for their 650's, but Ducati has not announced their program yet. Most of our friends are not in it for that, they want to have fun without worring about some heros taking them out. Many of them are over 40 and will race LW Formula 40 as well as other LW classes :cheers:
Quote from: Ducati23 on December 19, 2007, 05:49:25 PM
Which Ducati is everyone running in LW? Any air cooled twin, mostly SS models 900's and 1000's but some Sport Classic's and Monsters, we'd like to see someone run a Hypermotard!
Ok, thanks, still a little confused as I don't know these bikes well. Went to the Ducati web site and didn't find any of the bikes you mentioned except for the Hypermotard which I'm not interested in.
So the 7 bikes you said you were supplying to various racers must be older models and air cooled at that.
Not interested in getting back into light weight on an old bike, been there done that.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.
+1 for Clayton. Last year my SV was busted at Road America-- he helped me pull it all apart and check for some things that might have made it crap out.
Clayton, I did end up getting a Duc! A 748... I'm not as comfortable on it right now, so I'll be starting the season on the SV.
See you at Road America again next year?
--Justin
Looking forward to all the new competition. I guess Rebecca, Chase and Jack will have to pit together and watch in envy at the Ducati Semi :)
Ok, thanks, still a little confused as I don't know these bikes well. Went to the Ducati web site and didn't find any of the bikes you mentioned except for the Hypermotard which I'm not interested in.
This year Ducati paid for the 05/06 SS, Sport Classics 06/07/08 (Paul Smart/Sport/Sport S) and Hypermotard 08. I'm not sure what you mean about old models? There are plenty of current models availible. But...It's much less expensive to ride an older fuelie 900SS and do well thought out mods like the dual plug head conversion <allows you to run high compression on street gas = much cheaper than race gas!> big bore and performance cams than to buy a new machine that most racers do the same mods to anyway. Thus a good used 99 or 00 900 can be just as competitive as a 2008 Sport 1000S at 1/3 the overall cost. We're looking for riders who want to be here! :thumb:
Could you provide some links or pictures some where on-line of some of the bikes you've mentioned. Like I said went to the ducati site and just found the hypermotard.
Sounds like you're with a shop/dealership of some sort but I don't see the web site in your public profile or sig. Can you provide a link?
Thanks
www.DucatiOmaha.com (http://www.ducatiomaha.com)
Do a google search for Ducati Supersport, Sport, Sport 1000S, Paul Smart Replica to see the various models. Go to www.Ducati.com and check out the models there as well.
Quote from: APP_Racing on December 19, 2007, 11:08:23 PM
Looking forward to all the new competition. I guess Rebecca, Chase and Jack will have to pit together and watch in envy at the Ducati Semi :)
What? Are you getting a Ducati? or is there some other reason why you won't be pitting with us? I may have to get a damn motard if I can't bend this wrist anymore than I can now so I may really be an outsider.
BTW-Clayton is a good guy and knows bikes for any of those not familiar with him.
Well I think he knows his bikes....either that or he's a hell of a salesman/bullshitter.
I guess I'm tentatively in line for a built up 900ss
Last night I had a vision of 15 lightweight bikes in a tight pack going through turns 3/4 at speed fighting for position at Gateway...it gets me all warm and fuzzy inside....it was either that or the whiskey and 7
Quote from: wolf44 on December 20, 2007, 04:07:48 PM
I guess I'm tentatively in line for a built up 900ss
That is a hell of a lot better idea than the RC. Has you wife lost her patience with all this yet?
I'll have to talk to Clayton and see if we can't install a remote kill(like at the go kart places) so we can f@$* with you some.
Quote from: Ducati23 on December 19, 2007, 03:26:24 PM
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It looks like three or four more are on the fence right now.
Who would that be?
I 'm glad that the GP LW grids will be built up. I really enjoyed Topeka (meeting many of you) appart from the clutch cover oil leak = smoke issue. One of the downers was only being 1 of 4 bikes on the grids in AM. Don't think it will be an issue next year with the efforts to increase grids and the fact that I'll be running ex.
Maybe I need to get together and cheap old slow SS sv and come play with you guys once in a while when im get to run a CCS race. I wish I could have kept my sv superbike and still bought my new bike. Now that would be fun. My sv really loved the taste of ducati.
Who would that be?
You'd be one of those fence sitters Rich... It would be a real shame if CafeRacer couldn't manage to field at least one or two lightweight class riders next year.
I picked up a 1000SS for Dan Jasa yesterday so he should be in if he can get his trade ready to go. DO YOU need a bike Rich? It would be nice if Ben would come out a play once in awhile too.
I snapped a few pics today of the race/track bikes being built right now in our service bay at Ducati Omaha:
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But mine's clearly in the most complete at this point, just needs a few minor tweaks...... :rollseyes:
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Quote from: Ducati23 on December 23, 2007, 08:22:33 PM
Who would that be?
You'd be one of those fence sitters Rich... It would be a real shame if CafeRacer couldn't manage to field at least one or two lightweight class riders next year.
I picked up a 1000SS for Dan Jasa yesterday so he should be in if he can get his trade ready to go. DO YOU need a bike Rich? It would be nice if Ben would come out a play once in awhile too.
Hey Clayton my offer still stands......I get ten phone calls and/or emails from ten LW experts who tell me they are running the entire season.......and I'll ditch the R6 for another LW bike.
Rich, I'm running LW the whole season. Applied for expert.
Quote from: goldwing70 on December 24, 2007, 05:32:09 PM
Rich, I'm running LW the whole season. Applied for expert.
One down, nine to go!
Rich - you know we're only one shop. So far the experts are me 1, Shun 2, Dan Jasa 3, Anthony Dean 4, Becca 5, Chase 6, and Ben when he shows up, Jon from Colorado at some races - usually Hastings and Topeka, any of the MW guys who could now show up since the races should be scheduled apart from each other. At Hallett we'll have south region riders, at Gateway MW riders, at RA and Topeka there should be plenty of riders there as well. It looks like what we need is you and a couple of CafeRacer guys to join in the fun to make sure we always have 10 experts in LW class. It's time for you guys to do your part. We are doing ours. :thumb: Clayton
Cafe Racer is already well represented for next year in LW Expert:
Me, Rebecca, Anthony and maybe Rich(that a big maybe)
Omaha Ducati is doing there part is well:
Clayton, Shun, and probably Dan
& Tulsa Cycle Supply has Chris Chase
I'd love to have Ben come out and play, and I'm sure he would too, but I'm not counting on it as it would mean owning and maintaining a second bike for him.
Jon had his Kawi for sale and it was priced right so I'm guessing it sold. It was still eligible for contigency, so I would think that means he isn't running LW.
Anyway, the way I count it we probably have 7 that are pretty solid. Wu would make 8 GP riders. There may be some others I'm not aware. Regardless, 8 is a pretty could contigent when you take into account MW riders at MAM and Heartland, CCS South Riders at Hallett, and maybe MRA guys at MPH. I would think we will hit Richs magical number of 10 at every event, and maybe more at some venues.
I hope you're right Jack. Who was the kid on an SV from Lithium who moved up to EX mid year? Will he be in LW next season? Anyone Rob?
We want to see big LW class participation in 2008 in both AM & EX. I know TA would enjoy seeJarel, Jay H, Dan B, Bruce M, David T, and Kevin K out there in LW classes. We can't very well grow the LW EX class size without building up and supporting the LW AM as well. :thumb:
So at this point we are still encouraging many of our customers to get involved and to that end we have more used LW legal Ducati's and a couple SV's available to help them do this without breaking the bank. Any others interested in racing LW in 2008 please fee free to call us at Ducati Omaha (402) 408-4400. We'll help you get moving in the right direction. We would of course like to see as many Ducati's out there as is possible, but we'll help anyone who wants to play on a SV or Ninja 650. We have considerable experience with both types. :biggrin:
It's sounding like the SV's are going to be the underdog this year.
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It's sounding like the SV's are going to be the underdog this year.
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Becka with you on an SV that shouldn't matter much. Now if I was still riding SV's that be an issue... :lmao:
We're going to have a blast!
Quote from: Ducati23 on December 26, 2007, 02:28:13 PM
It's sounding like the SV's are going to be the underdog this year.Quote
Becka with you on an SV that shouldn't matter much. Now if I was still riding SV's that be an issue... :lmao:
We're going to have a blast!
True.
I know Jack and I dyno'd our SS SV's at Topeka last year and they were both around 66hp. I've been told that the ASRA dyno is 15% low so 75-76 hp. What is it the ducs have stock? 90hp? I don't think even a 105lb rider can make that much difference.
Either way, I'd ride with the MW's if it means more than 5 people to a grid. Glad to see bigger grids in such a fun class.
Becka,
We seem to have gone through this before. From what I have seen, in reality on pump gas a SS legal Ducati 1000SS will be around 85 bhp at the rear wheel. On the ASRA dyno where your SV pulled 66 bhp my Ducati was not too far off at 72 bhp. Once I cleaned up the fuel map and sorted some other issues out I got 89 bhp (dynojet scale) out of a very mild superbike build (so call it 76 bhp on the ASRA dyno). Now, my bike also weighed in right at 390 lbs carrying about 1 gallon of gas - quite a bit more than the SVs. On a combined power to weight ratio (using the ASRA numbers) that put me somewhere between 8.3 lbs and 7.9 lbs per bhp. Assuming your bike is 365 lbs wet and allowing for 20 lbs of gear you were at 7.3 lbs per bhp...
Lots of us have heard about big numbers from the Ducati 1000SS. Outside of highly modified bikes with substantial headwork that are running race fuel and very high compression I have yet to see credible evidence of what is being claimed. Ultimately the race will be won by the rider who can carry more corner speed and get on the gas earlier.
I am hoping to make it out to Topeka again in 2008. Perhaps you and I can have a drag race down the front straight for bragging rights!
George
LW is still a possibility for me. But it all depends on how the income is looking for the budget. I have to unload some debt (which should be handled just before the season) and then I would need to unload my R6 (just need to get the motor rebuilt and back in it)
No way I could commit to a full season until I see how the market is going to be... but yeah. LW is still a blip on my radar... If I am going to race a full season next year it would have to be on a LW bike for cost reasons.
Its not impossible to get pretty good numbers out of a SS-spec ducati 1000, but it is extremely time consuming. Attention to detail is ultra-important. Mine made 78 hp on Greg Williams' dyno (FactoryPro), but only after trying multiple custom exhausts, and about 5 hrs on dyno time. Most people cannot afford to have any motor built with the attention to detail mine received by doing it myself.
This fall I had an opportunity to run around daytona with a couple of "mostly stock" 1000ds bikes... they're owners were lying! Granted I'm pretty heavy, but some of those "stock" ducatis really flew. My bike was SS legal last year and was within the rules, but certainly not stock. My opinion is that many Ducati owners are embellishing the performance of "stock" motors to reduce the suspicions of other riders.
My old SV superbike made around 85-87 at the wheel (PM me if you want to buy that motor). I heard that Hitman dyno never saw 90 out of an SV and he does alot of runs. We all know that Hp is not everything.
Quote from: 123user on December 26, 2007, 06:20:37 PM
This fall I had an opportunity to run around daytona with a couple of "mostly stock" 1000ds bikes... they're owners were lying! Granted I'm pretty heavy, but some of those "stock" ducatis really flew. My bike was SS legal last year and was within the rules, but certainly not stock. My opinion is that many Ducati owners are embellishing the performance of "stock" motors to reduce the suspicions of other riders.
That's what always sticks in my memory when I think of racing the 1000ss Ducs in LW. Those things ate me alive on the banking, even being piloted by (no offense) non-aerodynamic full grown men :whine:. There was one, I'd easily pass on the infield, then he'd wave as he passed me on the banking. :spank: Ok, so he wasn't really waving.
On the tracks in the GP region the few Ducs I've gotten to race it's always been fun. Really looking forward to spring!
Quote from: tstruyk on December 26, 2007, 05:25:38 PM
LW is still a possibility for me. But it all depends on how the income is looking for the budget. I have to unload some debt (which should be handled just before the season) and then I would need to unload my R6 (just need to get the motor rebuilt and back in it)
No way I could commit to a full season until I see how the market is going to be... but yeah. LW is still a blip on my radar... If I am going to race a full season next year it would have to be on a LW bike for cost reasons.
Tim
When you have some time , call Kyle (Booth) and lets discuss possibilities of you riding LW in 2008....
might be something, might be nothing...but we have chatted about it a bit.
Who was the kid on an SV from Lithium who moved up to EX mid year? Will he be in LW next season? Anyone Rob?
This is Aaron Colton. He will be racing a 125 and a 600 in 2008. I don't think that he will racing his SV in 2008.
SV's are plenty competitive. I have no doubt that in CCS the Ducati is a more capable bike in SS. But they arent night and day better. My superbike SV would eat just about any ducati's lunch. It made at or slightly above 90hp on dynojet and weighed 320lbs, with the ram air the fast ducati's werent even close. And the ultra low weight really helped even out the ducati's advantage on corner exit, especially uphill like at Road Atlanta. And on the brakes there was no comparison. Ive ridden a couple good second gen SS bikes, and in all reality they werent far off where I think the true SS ducati's were.
Id say there is very little chance of me racing any LW next year, but you never know, if I have a bike available I may hit up the gateway round and maybe a few others. I dont really know what my plans are yet, except that im going to ride a lighter schedule than last year and try to learn how to ride a big bike. Did Dean take MAM off the schedule for next year?
Quote from: benprobst on December 27, 2007, 09:13:51 AM
Did Dean take MAM off the schedule for next year?
There's still 4 dates listed as 'TBD' in GP. May, June, Sep, Oct.
Quote from: Burt Munro on December 27, 2007, 02:40:01 PM
There's still 4 dates listed as 'TBD' in GP. May, June, Sep, Oct.
yeah the schedule is going to change even more than most think it is. I know of 2 or 3 dates that are supposidly confirmed, but are far from matching up with their current pre-release schedule on the CCS home site. Hope they get everything together, the later it gets the schedule is released the harder it is to attract "Joe -
i have to turn my vacation days in by january 1st - Racer"
Agreed,
And I still didn't have anything to do with your ever increasing smite count. :thumb: :biggrin:
Quote from: Burt Munro on December 27, 2007, 02:51:44 PM
Agreed,
And I still didn't have anything to do with your ever increasing smite count. :thumb: :biggrin:
Haha, yeah it just keeps on going up. Ohh well :biggrin: I was just so impressed with your smites I figured you had found a way into the system to bump your own or automate the process some way. Anyway, am I now the 2nd most smited? Ive got to be getting close by now. :boink:
Its going to be pretty easy this year. Jack, Rebecca, Chase and myself just need to prereg early on everything. We will be at the start of the pack, we run 4 wide like NASCAR and they won't be able to pass us. It will be like an SV parade.
All I can say is fast in - faster out and HP won't matter. But the blocking strategy will work just in case. :)
One more 1000ss was delivered today. This is going to Dr. Matt H. This is growing more than we anticipated! :thumb:
I'm giddy with anticipation, having much larger LW grids is going to be very cool! :cheers: I'm really sorry I strayed from LW in 2007, all it got me was 1 less knee ligament, 8 weeks on crutches and 5 months with no riding, can't wait to be back on a LW bike in '08! It's really just going to be a tune-up for LW Formula 40 in 2009, THAT'S going to be the cut-throat class, look out geezers!! :boink:
P.S. - I agree that HP is a minor part of the equation, my SV superbike made 86 at the wheel, my Ninja 650R made 69, and I lapped quicker on the Ninja. Suspension, brakes, and the RIDER are the bigger influence.
The way the grids are growing is awesome. Where's the happy dance smiley?
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Now we just need a firm schedule and a date for the Awards Banquet.
I got my 1000ss today!!! :thumb: Let the spanking begin... :spank: :spank: :spank: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
You're gonna need a bigger bike. :biggrin:
clayton, i think superdave just called you fat. are you gonna take that from him?
He's not fat, he's t0m.
Quote from: Ducati23 on December 31, 2007, 12:14:42 PM
I got my 1000ss today!!! :thumb: Let the spanking begin... :spank: :spank: :spank: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
lets save that for home ok ;)
I recently bought a slightly wrecked very low mileage 2001 Ducati 900 metallic. I was going to fix it up for a street bike but I'm wondering now if it would make a decent LW bike. What do you think, Clayton? Also, is this model equivalent to the 900SS. Thanks
I think the M900 will work out fine. Jarel is racing one this season. It fits shorter riders better and has a shorter reach to the bars so for many vertically challenged racers it is actually the bike of choice over the SS. '01 is the last year for the good chassis (ie 888 type) but with EFI so a very good bike to start with imo. It would need fully adjustable forks and a good shock. I just so happen to have a like new set of fully adjustable Showa's from a 1000ss that would bolt right on to that M900 without any mods required. Good price too. Seems someone found a cool set of ex-BSB Ohlins SBK forks for his 1000SS for next season, hmmm.
David can give me a hard time as long as he makes sure to properly fasten his head skid and has his cup on... :lmao: because the mind is a terrible thin' and it must be stopped in our lifetime...before it kills someone. :lmao:
Quote from: bill999s on January 01, 2008, 10:19:18 AM
I recently bought a slightly wrecked very low mileage 2001 Ducati 900 metallic. I was going to fix it up for a street bike but I'm wondering now if it would make a decent LW bike. What do you think, Clayton? Also, is this model equivalent to the 900SS. Thanks
I remember Brian Lacy raced a 900 Monster a couple years ago and did very well on it. Not sure what he had done for mods, but I'm sure it was far from stock. Like Clayton said, I'll be racing an M900 this year too, so I'd love to see another one out there! I've got some basic motor mods in the works to get a few more ponies, and suspension/chassis updates to get the monster set up more like the 888 superbike, I'm hoping with those changes the Monster will be comparable in performance to an SS. I did a couple track days on it this past year, but I had a bent fork so I was never able to push it. If you want to compare notes on race setup, just give me a call at Ducati Omaha or shoot me a PM.
Thanks for the help there. Send me an email on what you're asking for the forks. I'm in Maryland so unless we meet at Daytona or Barber I doubt we'll ever meet. I'd be interested in what other mods you guys did.
Sorry, my email is wsylvest@bluecrab.org
picked up my sv from ducati omaha yesterday...their garage is full of LW racers
Would you quit telling people that..Rich still thinks we're full of it. :lmao:
I'm so excited to race LW again!!! I haven't looked forward to racing this much in 20 years.
"Trackdays/Racing - Because Golf is for faggots"
Quote from: wolf44 on January 14, 2008, 11:04:37 AM
picked up my sv from ducati omaha yesterday...their garage is full of LW racers
I'm having a hard time keeping up with you Dan. Didn't you sell an SV last fall and buy an RC51? :wtf:
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 14, 2008, 07:19:49 PM
Would you quit telling people that..Rich still thinks we're full of it. :lmao:
I'm so excited to race LW again!!! I haven't looked forward to racing this much in 20 years.
"Trackdays/Racing - Because Golf is for faggots"
with a little help from my friends and a pinch of luck (I should have alot this year as I had NONE last year) I'll be running some lightweight stuff this year. Looking forward to banging bars wtih you guys!!
with alot of luck I'll have the R6 back in shape too racing 2 bikes!!!
Now I just gotta lose "half a becca" so I dont get dusted in the straights! :biggrin:
diet/workout regiment in full effect!!!
That is good news Timmy!
Quote from: Burt Munro on January 14, 2008, 09:37:52 PM
I'm having a hard time keeping up with you Dan. Didn't you sell an SV last fall and buy an RC51? :wtf:
well first I got a deal I couldn't refuse with the RC, then clayton offered me a deal on a trade for my rc for an sv that I couldn't refuse. So in a round about way I came out with the same bike I had last year except built the way I wanted
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needs a paint job..... ::)
Leave it unpainted! Shiny new paint is a gravity magnet!
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Update photo to show what I'll be riding in LW. A plain bone stock 1000SS with slip-ons. Nothing special. It's only apart so I can go over it to be sure it'd be allowed on a track and maybe it'd pass tech inspection. SV riders need not worry. This exceptionally slow bike will barely find it's way 'round a track much less do it quickly. :err: It'll be a struggle to ride it, but someone had to represent Ducati in GP/MW so I volunteered. I hope I can keep up with those fast riders on this pile... :biggrin:
I see you have some of those UGLY NFC Racin' lightened rotors :biggrin:
Yeah they suck, sorry but Lonny said it'd only weigh 1 lb, but they weigh 1.1 lbs so we're really pissed. :lmao:
Yeah the NFC rotor is way cool as is the Ti hardware, light sprockets, ceramic bearings - you know bone stock Ducati parts.
I think we're putting a NFC rotor on every SS and Monster we put out on the track this year. I have some more to send out to Lonny soon. :biggrin:
hey those are some shiny forks you have there
That looks fast, shiny and expensive.
Quotehey those are some shiny forks you have there
They are cheap stock forks painted & sticker tuned to look like more expensive forks
That thing will lucky to be ready by the race season............... mine, on the other hand, is nearly complete and ready to ROLL!!! :boink: Just a few minor details to work out, putting the correct stickers on, that sort of thing..... oh, and getting a motor, that would be good too.........
(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ducatiomaha.com%2Fimages%2FjarelM900Frame.jpg&hash=61a1256a1270601b2fd597ef0c75d98176fbf830)
Yeah but I have a 1098 front fender so mine will be just as fast as a 1098. . . right? :err:
Quote from: tstruyk on January 14, 2008, 11:18:29 PM
with a little help from my friends and a pinch of luck (I should have alot this year as I had NONE last year) I'll be running some lightweight stuff this year. Looking forward to banging bars wtih you guys!!
with alot of luck I'll have the R6 back in shape too racing 2 bikes!!!
Now I just gotta lose "half a becca" so I dont get dusted in the straights! :biggrin:
diet/workout regiment in full effect!!!
Great news Timmay! You deserve a boat load of good luck this year.
thanks Randy! Things seem to be coming together nicely. Dropped 7 lbs int he last 2 weeks, new job is going well so far, have 2 people looking at my truck this week... things are finally starting to go my way again!
If I get the nack of the new gig soon enough I'll be running the R6 and an SV... gotta make up for essentially missing last year!
All kinds of opportunities have presented themselves from various sources and to those that have and are providing me with these opportunities, I really cant thank you enough! It wasnt necessary, but it sure as hell is appreciated!!
timmay
Things really have turned around for you....
Dustin even said something nice about you at the MW Banquet!! :lmao:
It's nice to see ya happy again Timmay! Glad to hear things have turned around.
FWIW...I run a 07 800SS Super Bike here in the MA region. Last year I had it making 84HP on VPU2, mild headwork (basically a SS job), Hi Comp Pistal Pistons, ARC exhaust, LW Flywheel, open airbox. I put 1000SS forks on it with AK-20's in there. The bike handles great and has really nice pull off the corners. The torque is nuts on these bikes. The only thing I dont like is the throttle is hard to pull vs a G2 SV which I rode for the previous 3 years.
For 08 the bike is about 40lbs lighter, full headwork, cams, LW pulley system for the timing belts. We are hoping for 90+ HP out of the 800SS. The cams we used are 900SS ie cams which gave a lil more duration and 1mm more lift on int an ex.
Quote from: sv814 on January 19, 2008, 11:47:34 PM
FWIW...I run a 07 800SS Super Bike here in the MA region. Last year I had it making 84HP on VPU2, mild headwork (basically a SS job), Hi Comp Pistal Pistons, ARC exhaust, LW Flywheel, open airbox. I put 1000SS forks on it with AK-20's in there. The bike handles great and has really nice pull off the corners. The torque is nuts on these bikes. The only thing I dont like is the throttle is hard to pull vs a G2 SV which I rode for the previous 3 years.
For 08 the bike is about 40lbs lighter, full headwork, cams, LW pulley system for the timing belts. We are hoping for 90+ HP out of the 800SS. The cams we used are 900SS ie cams which gave a lil more duration and 1mm more lift on int an ex.
If Donnie Unger is helping you I'm sure your bike will run well. He and his wife are good folks and we were happy to see them get a dealership. I'd have Donnie look into the trottle pull, my SS pull is very light, you may want to remove the fast idle cable and mech, plus check the throttle tube, cable & routing. It should be very easy like a g2 SV
Yup...Donnie is doing the work. He has done a great job in the past and Im sure its gonna be good to go this time also. The throttle has been like this since it was brand new out of the crate. We are putting a 1/5th turn on it. I thought it was because it was a single cable vs the push/pull dual cable with the SV's. I am hoping to get this thing fairly competative vs the Buell's in ASRA Thunderbike. I think the 40lb weight reduction is gonna be huge on top of the HP and torque gains.
Quote from: sv814 on January 20, 2008, 12:42:33 PM
I think the 40lb weight reduction is gonna be huge on top of the HP and torque gains.
I'm doing what I can to reduce the weight of my SS racebike also. Sharkskinz, lighter rotors, light exhaust, light flywheel, lighter clutch, alloy pulleys, rearsets, 520 kit, lighter forks & brakes, reduced wiring, titanium bits, lighter triples, everything removed that isn't needed, Before long I'm adding the FuelCel tank to top it off. After that I think it's done, it gets to a point where any lighter gets unreasonably expensive.
Clayton, did you see my PM?
I did the fuel cell, 900SS aluminum swingarm, lightweight wheels, aftermarket lightened front rotors, cut the rear of the frame off which was 6.5lbs in itself, lightweight cam pulleys, lightened and balanced crank, lighter but stronger carillo rods, lightened some internal gears and generator.
Quote from: sv814 on January 20, 2008, 12:42:33 PM
Yup...Donnie is doing the work. He has done a great job in the past and Im sure its gonna be good to go this time also. The throttle has been like this since it was brand new out of the crate. We are putting a 1/5th turn on it. I thought it was because it was a single cable vs the push/pull dual cable with the SV's. I am hoping to get this thing fairly competative vs the Buell's in ASRA Thunderbike. I think the 40lb weight reduction is gonna be huge on top of the HP and torque gains.
what does it weigh now that it has lost 40 lbs?
It was 371 at an ASRA round last year with 2 gallons in the tank. So should be roughly 331. A lot of the weight is reciprocating weight such as the wheels, rotors, crank, rods, gears etc... I also added a set of the steering stem bearings that Sean O Sullivan sells...the offset ones.
OK. I'll play. Dustin off the .65 Litre Duc Eater!
So Clayton, does this mean you won't be running (non-LW) Formula-40?
Damn, I knew last year when I got back into racing I should have done it with a LW, but nooooo, I had to go and get myself a 600 like all the young(er) guys were riding....
:banghead:
Dan
We can help you with that situation. We have Ducati's, Ninja 650 and SV's on hand. If your 600 has a clean title, you could be there very easily.
I'll still be in F40 because someone has to race Bill, Dean & Randy. I could race LW F40 on my SS but I plan to race F40 unless the classes are split apart with some other race. As it is I'll be in LW GP, LW SB, F40, Thunderbike & SuperTwins. One more race could kill a guy my age... :lmao: CP
Ok, so how many actual racers to we have committed to doing the entire GP LW season?
Anthony
Beckah
Clayton
Dan
Jarel
Am I missing anybody?
Ok, you are not allowed to make a post asking about who is racing GP LW if you aren't putting you stinking name on the list. What afraid of the competition!!!!!!!!
I believe you forgot Mr. Fast himself - Jack "That Just Happened!" Brock.
Anthony Flaimm (sp?) should be white plated this year as well.
by the time rich figures out there will be nice big juicy LW grids he'll also figure out he cant get a bike quick enough to run the series...
c'mon rich, be a part of the solution. If everyone took your stance we'd never have a full grid!!!
Looking better each day for me...
Rich forgot a few:
Shun - Now white plated
Kevin Clark decided to do it too.
Chase
Jack
Flaim
We could probably get Wooten too if we could figure out to rebadge a SV into a Honda...
Plus a bunch of yellow plates - Jay Hanson, Dan Boynton, Bruce Meyer, Dave Tyrell and at least that many I'm forgetting right now.
Anthony - Rich will keep making excuses and miss the fun. Sucks to be him. We'll have a blast. You going to the TAB in KC next week? Clayton
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 23, 2008, 09:55:29 AM
We could probably get Wooten too if we could figure out to rebadge a SV into a Honda...
Actually Richard sold his Honda dealership so he's now free to ride superior brands!!
Yep I will be there. Bringing the wife and the little one. I just hope he can hang long enough for us to enjoy the banquet. I have work to do in town so it just makes sense. Plus with some luck I will get an evening to take the little one to the pool for the first time.
I am also going to try and make the Feb 7th event at Cafe. Bazzazz is in town and I have been really considering one of their units for the 750.
Ok.......is B-Rock healed and committed to the whole season? I haven't talked to him.
Forgot about Shun.
I talked to Chase and he has no bike plus probably won't run GP since they don't go to Hallett.
Clark only runs hte occasional event....unless something has changed.......Kevin???
Don't know Flaimm.....what is his story? Full season EX LW GP?
Richard told me that he was gonna go work for the man and thus would be a new employee w/ limited vaca time....so he wasn't sure if he'd be able to make all the events and HPT track days.
Timmay, are you 100% full season?
I can't sell this R6 and buy a LW unless I know for SURE it won't be like 06.
So......
Anthony
Beckah
Clayton
Dan
Jarel
Shun
Can we get confirmations on the others? Only need four more! (really six more, so we've got two alternates)
Anybody want to MAYBE buy an R6?
flaim will run MW but will be at the first 4 GP rounds. We'll have a crap load of white platers for the first few combined rounds. Flaimm, Wilkens are two new white platers I know of for sure.
Here's my scehdule:
March 16, MOVMX, Moberly, Mo. (Vintage MX)
April 11-12, MOTO X Championships, San Deigo, Ca. (Freestyle MX and Supermoto)
April 25-27, CCS, HPT, Topeka, Ks.
May 4, MOVMX, Thayer, Mo.
May 24, MOVMX 100cc Nationals, Greenwood, Mo.
May 25, MOVMX, Greenwood, Mo.
June 13-14, AMA Supermoto, Austin, Tx.
June 15, MOVMX, Moberly, Mo.
June 28, MOVMX, Mexico, Mo.
July 4-6, CCS, Road America, Elkhart Lake, Wi.
July 18-19, AMA SUpermoto, Seattle, Wa.
July 30 thru Aug 3, X-Games, L.A., Ca.
Aug 16-17, CCS, Gateway, Madison, Il.
Aug 22-23, AMA Supermoto, Hartford, Ct.
Aug 29-30, AMA Supermoto, Detroit, Mi.
Sep 5-7, AMA Supermoto, Tooele, Ut.
Sep 13-14, MOVMX, Halfway, Mo.
Oct. 5 MOVMX, Mexico, Mo.
Oct. 19, MOVMX, Halltown, Mo.
Oct 31-Nov. 1, AMA Supermoto, Houston, Tx.
Nov 2, MOVMX, Greenwood, Mo.
Nov. 7-8, AMA Supermoto, Las Vegas, Nv.
Nov 14-16, AMA Supermoto, Cabazon, Ca.
Dec. Vintage Winter Hare Scramble TBA
I'm still healing and should be ok by the HPT race. I already have a SV that is mostly ready, so I am committed to LW. I'll be in Italy in June and will miss the Hastings race and I won't mess with Road America, but should be at the other rounds. Anthony and I will probably do CMRA at Hallett in late July also.
Rich, I really hope you come play in LW. I don't think Chris is going to be racing, but we will see. I've had a few MW guys contact about SVs wanting to know if they are any fun, so we may get a few unexpected converts because they are a bunch of fun and a COMPETITIVE bike can be had for $4k. Based on what I've heard, we should have a solid 8 and hopefully 10 or better at most GP rounds. The combined races have the potential to be 15 to 20 and thats awesome!
Jack is right on target, the worst we should see is 8 or 9 white plates at a few GP rounds. The combined rounds and ASRA rounds will have more like 15 to 20 at those rounds. It should be a good showing. At this point it looks like the yellow plates will be at least as strong, probably stronger. We had two more people stop in interested in LW machines this week. It looks very promising right now. I'm glad Kevin will make a few races. Lets get this party started. :cheers:
Quote from: Rich on January 23, 2008, 06:50:45 PM
Timmay, are you 100% full season?
cant answer that until the details of my ride are hashed out. but its taking VERY good form. The new job is shaping up just about right to allow me to race most of if not all of the season.
the 2 hastings events may be tricky for me with such a long travel time to get there... but if I can get my bro/dad to fly me out there ala HPT 2 years ago that should work out. Its best if I can work at least a partial day on saturday and fly out sat night.
anyone know if there is an airstrip near MPH? grass runway is fine.
Its on the other side of town, but just call us and we'll come get you!
Yes, I've flown into that little airstrip back in 2003 when I bought a gixxer from Wolf. Nice place, I think it was an asphalt runway
perfect , i'll have to coordinate thier schedules with mine...I could just steal the "keys" but my landings are a little rough :biggrin:
I'd like to do a pracitce day there but gotta make the $$ before I spend it... maybe I'll shooot out for a TD ahead of time.
thanks for the input gang
timmay
If you buy a condo, George would likely let you land on the infield.
Well, not sure about anyone else but I think I better start getting ready. Seems like we are going to have some pretty fun racing. Last year the racing was nose to nose almost every race. Add in 4-8 more riders and we could be running 4 wide in some corners.
I'm trying to get ready. Having a hard time deciding what items are worth the money and which ones just sound cool.
Quote from: funsizeracing on January 24, 2008, 02:47:52 PM
I'm trying to get ready. Having a hard time deciding what items are worth the money and which ones just sound cool.
How about some lead weight bolt on plates?
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 24, 2008, 03:58:08 PM
How about some lead weight bolt on plates?
LOL! I think that's one of those that just sounds cool :biggrin:
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 24, 2008, 03:58:08 PM
How about some lead weight bolt on plates?
It might make the bike handle better, I don't thing they make .75kg springs, so lead weights might get her to were she needs to be for the .90s :)
Actually, I have been having this problem that I'm not sure how to address. The back end always feels like it's up in the air. I thought it was just me till that uber fast guy on the Kaw 650 said he thought it looked that way too. I sit really far forward on the tank (so I can reach the bars) do you think a set of those things that move the bars backwards would help so I could shift my weight more?
Quote from: funsizeracing on January 24, 2008, 06:08:40 PM
Actually, I have been having this problem that I'm not sure how to address. The back end always feels like it's up in the air. I thought it was just me till that uber fast guy on the Kaw 650 said he thought it looked that way too. I sit really far forward on the tank (so I can reach the bars) do you think a set of those things that move the bars backwards would help so I could shift my weight more?
If ALL your weight was on the front end, it wouldn't be enough, so I wouldn't buy whatever bars you are talking about unless you are spinning the rear, and then I'd still try to adjust the rear. I've never noticed anything wrong with your rear, but I'm typically distracted by something when I come up behind you. Do you know what springs you have front and rear? sag numbers? fork height? shock length?
Quote from: Jack_Brock on January 24, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
If ALL your weight was on the front end, it wouldn't be enough, so I wouldn't buy whatever bars you are talking about unless you are spinning the rear, and then I'd still try to adjust the rear. I've never noticed anything wrong with your rear, but I'm typically distracted by something when I come up behind you. Do you know what springs you have front and rear? sag numbers? fork height? shock length?
Like you're ever behind me for more than a corner!
I have no idea what's in it. Suspension confuses me :ahhh:. Greg Williams did the front for me and it's all good. Really good actually. I think the spring in the rear is one heavier than what I actually needed.
I was just thinking maybe the weight was distributed strangely. I dunno.
change your spring
Quote from: funsizeracing on January 24, 2008, 06:08:40 PM
Actually, I have been having this problem that I'm not sure how to address. The back end always feels like it's up in the air. I thought it was just me till that uber fast guy on the Kaw 650 said he thought it looked that way too. I sit really far forward on the tank (so I can reach the bars) do you think a set of those things that move the bars backwards would help so I could shift my weight more?
I am going to just jump into your converstation.
You can get custom weight fork springs from traction dynamics for $138.00 shipped to your door.
Jack is right about you springs, too hard = spinning up, torn up tires and lack of feel.
I have only seen you once at Daytona, and I am not sure how much you weigh, but I would venture a guess to say not much. I would think, if your riding style fits, you could use springs that are stock or lighter than stock.
You might be suprised at how even a small spring change can change the feedback your bike gives you. My master gave a rear spring to me that was 15lbs lighter that the one I was using. The difference in feedback from the rear tire was AMAZING!!!!
Thanks :thumb:
Ok, Back to LW Racing in the MW. Rich are you going to get an SV or are you afraid of gettin' :spank:
speaking of SV's....
just because they're opening up the SV's to ULWSB, doesn't necessarily mean that they won't be competitive in LW for a couple more years, right? i mean, not everyone can afford one of the newer ducs or beemers that have opened up the LW classes.
Quote from: funsizeracing on January 25, 2008, 11:14:40 AM
Thanks :thumb:
Ok, Back to LW Racing in the MW. Rich are you going to get an SV or are you afraid of gettin' :spank:
Maybe. If there are really going to be good grids of 10+ at every event and I know this for sure......then yes. If not.....then I'll stick to the meatgrinder.
Hello, my name is Rich Wu.
I'll only play with you if you say, 'Pretty please Rich! Won't you come out and play with us?'
:biggrin:
Quote from: Burt Munro on January 25, 2008, 01:06:48 PM
Hello, my name is Rich Wu.
I'll only play with you if ten people say, 'Pretty please Rich! Won't you come out and play with us?'
:biggrin:
Fixed it for ya!
Quote from: Burt Munro on January 25, 2008, 01:06:48 PM
Hello, my name is Rich Wu.
I'll only play with you if you say, 'Pretty please Rich! Won't you come out and play with us?'
:biggrin:
"Hello, my name is Rick and I am a professional shit disturber :biggrin:"
Quote from: Rich on January 25, 2008, 12:48:04 PM
Maybe. If there are really going to be good grids of 10+ at every event and I know this for sure......then yes. If not.....then I'll stick to the meatgrinder.
blah blah blah... who cares at this point anyway? He'd get spanked anyway. Better for him to finish mid pack in the middleweight mess lost in anonymity than to get his butt kicked by a bunch of lightweight class hoodlums where everyone here will know it's Rich. We have enough good people for it to be a great time without him.
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 25, 2008, 06:25:38 PM
blah blah blah... who cares at this point anyway? He'd get spanked anyway. Better for him to finish mid pack in the middleweight mess lost in anonymity than to get his butt kicked by a bunch of lightweight class hoodlums where everyone here will know it's Rich. We have enough good people for it to be a great time without him.
Heck, last year I think one of the closest races in LW there were only two people in it! That was some of the most fun you can legally have!
Someone give me a good H2 transmission.
Quote from: Super Dave on January 25, 2008, 07:36:51 PM
Someone give me a good H2 transmission.
Are you going to run LW's if we do?
It fits. In Ultralightweight too, but more people in LW.
Has to be a good one. Or a new one. New close ratio would be preferable. Probably the same cost unfortunately.
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 25, 2008, 06:25:38 PM
blah blah blah... who cares at this point anyway? He'd get spanked anyway. Better for him to finish mid pack in the middleweight mess lost in anonymity than to get his butt kicked by a bunch of lightweight class hoodlums where everyone here will know it's Rich. We have enough good people for it to be a great time without him.
I'm shooting for midpack to keep my anonymity :)
I was thinking about running LW in mid west. I just have to figure out where all the tracks are.
And see if it is the bet place for me to run. I am about 100 miles south of St. Louis.
Quote from: funsizeracing on January 25, 2008, 06:37:05 PM
Heck, last year I think one of the closest races in LW there were only two people in it! That was some of the most fun you can legally have!
Hey don't tell my wife. Any way, if Rich does show up to run a LW race, I say we all don't grid that race. Make him run solo.
QuoteSomeone give me a good H2 transmission.
I've got a whole H2 for sale on ebay (again) :ass:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220195734573&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123
Quote from: BrettRay76 on January 25, 2008, 11:39:24 PM
I was thinking about running LW in mid west. I just have to figure out where all the tracks are.
And see if it is the bet place for me to run. I am about 100 miles south of St. Louis.
Are you an EX or AM?
Brett's been an expert for probably 17+ years.
Good to hear you're gonna do some local stuff, Brett. Anything happening with MotoST with you for 2008?
Quote from: tstruyk on January 26, 2008, 01:31:53 AM
I've got a whole H2 for sale on ebay (again) :ass:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220195734573&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123
Tim, you sold that once already. WTF?
Quote from: BrettRay76 on January 25, 2008, 11:39:24 PM
I was thinking about running LW in mid west. I just have to figure out where all the tracks are.
And see if it is the bet place for me to run. I am about 100 miles south of St. Louis.
Run the GP region
Quote from: wolf44 on January 26, 2008, 09:23:22 AM
Run the GP region
+1
What would that bring our total to? I'm losing count.
Has it been that long? Seventeen years! OMG
I will check out the dates and locations for the GP region as well. I will do a few HW races too I'm sure. We'll see.
As far as Moto-ST it's down to the wire but it looks like I'll be there. I'm just getting some of the final details worked out that I started on in Oct. Always comes down to the last minute.
Quote from: Super Dave on January 26, 2008, 06:28:11 AM
Tim, you sold that once already. WTF?
sometimes you have to sell things more than once.
Get ready for another newb in this class too....just picked up my sv650 today. Mostly race prepped, but needs some sorting. Nothing that can't be handled by springtime. I've been roadracing a cr85 supermoto bike at kart tracks for 3 years so I'm not a total newb, but close enough.
Looking forward to seeing you guys at the track. :cheers:
Quote from: vanillagorrilla on January 27, 2008, 12:12:16 AM
Get ready for another newb in this class too....just picked up my sv650 today. Mostly race prepped, but needs some sorting. Nothing that can't be handled by springtime. I've been roadracing a cr85 supermoto bike at kart tracks for 3 years so I'm not a total newb, but close enough.
Are you a yellow plate?
Looking forward to seeing you guys at the track. :cheers:
ya know rich, its a lot easier to pick out what you're asking if you don't ask it in the middle of the quotation
::)
So Rich what is your magic number. How many people you have to pester before you say you are a WANNA BE LW? I know you like riding behind Becca but hey, I have been doing that longer than you -- so get in line buddy.
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 27, 2008, 01:22:54 PM
So Rich what is your magic number. How many people you have to pester before you say you are a WANNA BE LW? I know you like riding behind Becca but hey, I have been doing that longer than you -- so get in line buddy.
Well I guess its 10. If there are gonna be 10 LWs at the track EVERY weekend I'll sell that meatgrinder and come back home.
Ideally there should be 12 so we've got some alternates for those that have injuries, can't make it one weekend, bike problems, etc.
But if there are ten CONFIRMED riders that will be at every event......for sale.....one R6......slightly used......ridden like a grandma.
Quote from: wolf44 on January 27, 2008, 09:49:54 AM
ya know rich, its a lot easier to pick out what you're asking if you don't ask it in the middle of the quotation
::)
Ah, now I get it.
Amateur
Welcome to lightweight. You'll enjoy this class in yellow plate now that Shun has moved up. He was a cherry picker... :lmao:
Welcome to the field.
Quote from: vanillagorrilla on January 27, 2008, 05:00:53 PM
Ah, now I get it.
Amateur
Any chance you wanna go straight to white? :)
Greetings all,
I've been lurking on this site for over a year but never felt
I had anything to add until now.
Since there are a few other amateurs chiming in I'll add that
I will be racing Lightweight Supersport and other LW classes
all season in GP and MW regions. I raced last year but only
at MAM and Road America. I'm hoping to get to at least six
events this year with my Buell XB12R.
I'll be accompanied by another Buell XB12R racer who got
his license late last season and has his bike ready to go for
this season.
We are TRUE amateurs but I had a blast last year and hope to
make steady improvement this coming season.
Hey Ralph! It's about time!
Awesome to have you on board. This could be one of the best LW groups ever in LW for MW & GP. It is awesome to see so much interest and involvement. By my count Amateur has now exceeded the Expert count in GP. It's tough to get more Experts without a strong Amateur class generating new Experts. This is very encouraging for the series.
Didn't they combine AM and EX in ULW due to the small entries? Perhaps we could convince CCS to do the same in LW?
Quote from: Rich on January 27, 2008, 07:28:45 PM
Any chance you wanna go straight to white? :)
Why, does the expert group need a rolling chicane?
Quote from: vanillagorrilla on January 27, 2008, 09:50:58 PM
Why, does the expert group need a rolling chicane?
Na, just larger grids. Come on, why do you want to waste your time being a yellow plate? White plates look better anyway.
They do look better, and I am all about style... but I think the AM grid will plenty tough for me.
Rich I assume youre doing a full season?
Quote from: tstruyk on January 27, 2008, 11:02:43 PM
Rich I assume youre doing a full season?
Either that or until I run out of money.
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 27, 2008, 01:22:54 PM
So Rich what is your magic number. How many people you have to pester before you say you are a WANNA BE LW? I know you like riding behind Becca but hey, I have been doing that longer than you -- so get in line buddy.
:lmao: :lmao:
I love you guys! :kissy:
Quote from: Rich on January 28, 2008, 12:39:48 AM
Either that or until I run out of money.
well if you can't committ to a full season I'm out :kicknuts:
Quote from: Rich on January 28, 2008, 12:39:48 AM
Either that or until I run out of money.
Damnit Dan, you beat me to it!
so would you get more racing out of a MW or an SV? which one would drive you out of money faster? Its not like your gonna be winning contingency on a MW anyway. :ahhh: :biggrin:
We should petition Dean to combine the Grids. But I bet he sticks with 2 wave for safety reasons. He can't let the Yellow Plates catch Rich before turn 1. It would run his style.
Yeah, SVs don't need as many tires, 2 less spark plugs to buy, they likely weigh less so you save on towing costs.....
Quote from: wolf44 on January 28, 2008, 09:05:34 AM
well if you can't committ to a full season I'm out :kicknuts:
I don't care who you are that is funny...
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 28, 2008, 10:32:38 AMHe can't let the Yellow Plates catch Rich before turn 1. It would run his style.
What style, he's been raicng in the goon squad with all the 600 lunatics, they don't have style. We've seen the crash on straights!
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 28, 2008, 10:32:38 AM
We should petition Dean to combine the Grids. But I bet he sticks with 2 wave for safety reasons. He can't let the Yellow Plates catch Rich before turn 1. It would run his style.
Yeah, SVs don't need as many tires, 2 less spark plugs to buy, they likely weigh less so you save on towing costs.....
Yep SV is cheaper and more fun to race for sure. I just don't want to race by myself.....
Quote from: funsizeracing on January 28, 2008, 08:59:20 AM
:lmao: :lmao:
I love you guys! :kissy:
That is fre
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 28, 2008, 10:47:49 AM
I don't care who you are that is funny...
That is the funniest thing I've seen in awhile-congrats!
Quote from: Jack_Brock on January 28, 2008, 04:02:54 PM
That is fre
That is the funniest thing I've seen in awhile-congrats!
B-Rock how much are you gonna race this year? Are you one of the 10?
damn wu, sack up or go home, quit stringing us along
Quote from: wolf44 on January 28, 2008, 05:01:54 PM
damn wu, sack up or go home, quit stringing us along
I'm tryin, I'm tryin! I just need to KNOW that there will be a full LW grid before I commit! Selling the R6 and buying another LW bike is a lot of work just to find out that there are three LW racers every weekend!
Quote from: Rich on January 28, 2008, 04:38:48 PM
B-Rock how much are you gonna race this year? Are you one of the 10?
I plan to do the whole season with the exception of the June Hastings race and Road America. I'll be out of the country in June, so no way I can make that and I don't have any interest in RA. I do have a SV already, so I'm definately in.
BTW-my opinion on LW is the bikes are cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, and just as much fun. I'm glad we are getting some converts and a grid. I feel the number of racers we loose(overall) each year would be far less if some would realize what a good value the LW bikes are.
Quote from: Rich on January 28, 2008, 05:10:40 PM
I'm tryin, I'm tryin! I just need to KNOW that there will be a full LW grid before I commit! Selling the R6 and buying another LW bike is a lot of work just to find out that there are three LW racers every weekend!
If you really are only looking for competition then what does it matter how many riders there are, as long as they are all competitive. From what ive seen out of you, you will be competitive with anthony, becca, dan, and brock, all of whom have basically commited to a full season. So who cares if there are 6 more filler guys behind you? (not directed at anyone else running the lw class, i dont know alot of you guys so cant comment on how fast you are) If your real motivation is tire money, then yeah I understand the need, but you only need 6 for michelin to pay top 3. Ill try and hit a few round just on the fact that it will be cheap to tag along with anthony or dan or becca. Ill bring the 750 along, and maybe the SV if you really want me to.
I asy we start a petition... if we get 10 full season guys/gals to commit, we ban Rich. who's with me?
1. Timmay
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Quote from: tstruyk on January 29, 2008, 01:03:10 AM
I say we start a petition... if we get 10 full season guys/gals to commit, we ban Rich. who's with me?
1. Timmay
2. Dan
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I asy we start a petition... if we get 10 full season guys/gals to commit, we ban Rich. who's with me? Filled in a few that already stated this over and over and over and over for Rich already.
1. Timmay
2. Dan
3. Anthony
4. Becka
5. Jack
6. Clayton
7. Shun
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Actually you can add my name to the list. I'll be running my old 748 in Thunderbike, which is a lightweight class (kind of ironic given what a heavy tank the 748 is).
So, we only need two more for the ban! Dave Terrell needs to step up here.
I asy we start a petition... if we get 10 full season guys/gals to commit, we ban Rich. who's with me? Filled in a few that already stated this over and over and over and over for Rich already.
1. Timmay
2. Dan
3. Anthony
4. Becka
5. Jack
6. Clayton
7. Shun
8. Greg
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Sorry Greg, but I'm still a yellow plate so I don't count. I will be enjoying the show from the second wave!
Damn! Wish I was still starting races for the GP Region. Rich would never run a race without at least 1 meatball!!! :spank:
Okay, this whole string has been dominated by you white plates, but it's got me interested enough in a LW bike again that I'm taking a big long road trip next weekend to pick up one to throw some yellow plates on (at least one more season :biggrin:). Last time I was on a LW it was a Honda Hawk duking it out and swearing at the power advantage of the Ducati 750/900SSs. Now I'll be riding an SV650 duking it out and swearing at the power advantage of the 1000SSs. Some things never change.
Jarel - I ended up finding a used SV with a pretty good spares set, so I'm picking up that option. For whoever's interested, the Ducati Omaha guys said they have enough around to build an SV650 and they might be expecting another 1000ss in soon.
Uh oh, someone's baiting us into the Ducati vs. SV controversy again... tread carefully! Everyone's got something to swear about. I will admit that I did less swearing about the competition this years on the 1000ss than I did on my Hawk in 2006
Fast In = Faster Out
Doesn't matter how much power you have.
Well thats what this SV rider is telling himself.. Over and Over again.
I think I can pass Shun and Clayton, I think I can, I think I can.
I've never lost to a duc 1000... :ass:
Ducatis suck! Hey Scott :biggrin:
Man its not even February and it is ON.
Suck what? The paint off SV's when they fly past? Yeah that's it. Lets just say my SS will be the bright spot of the field. You'll see what I mean soon enough... The MotoGP paint is alarming to say the least.
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 29, 2008, 04:24:43 PM
Fast In = Faster Out
Doesn't matter how much power you have.
Well thats what this SV rider is telling himself.. Over and Over again.
I think I can pass Shun and Clayton, I think I can, I think I can.
I'm not counting on that. Got keep improving that power to weight ratio from both rider and machine.
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 29, 2008, 10:10:05 AM
I asy we start a petition... if we get 10 full season guys/gals to commit, we ban Rich. who's with me? Filled in a few that already stated this over and over and over and over for Rich already.
1. Timmay
2. Dan
3. Anthony
4. Becka
5. Jack
6. Clayton
7. Shun
8. Greg
9. Stephen W
10
Quote from: SV88 on January 29, 2008, 07:11:46 PM
Jack already said he was skipping two rounds.
Take him off the list!
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 29, 2008, 06:51:28 PM
Suck what? The paint off SV's when they fly past? Yeah that's it.
:lmao: you have been racing the wrong SV's. Damn I wish I were rich, If only I could have held onto my SV, that was a special motorcycle. Didnt even need an extra 400 CC's to be competitive :biggrin:
Quote from: mwsportsimaging on January 29, 2008, 10:18:54 AM
Sorry Greg, but I'm still a yellow plate so I don't count. I will be enjoying the show from the second wave!
Me too, yellow this year at least. So let's get the Yellow Plate list going too, just so we know where we stand. Here's what I can think of right now:
1. Dave T.
2. Jarel
3. Bruce
4. Jay H.
5. Dan B.
6. Dan Swenson (Or are you going to be Ex this year??)
Who else do we have?
Well Rich, Jack is in and that counts, period. Not everyone makes every round. So 1 more and you are banded from the way I read it.
Or we will just have a pretty steady group of 8+ at every race.
You are forgetting somehting as well. 3 of the rounds are combined events with MW so a lot more Ex LW riders will be there.
Heck Ben, didn't you pull a plug wire on the bike and still make like 80 hp.
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 29, 2008, 09:21:37 PM
Heck Ben, didn't you pull a plug wire on the bike and still make like 80 hp.
Ha, yeah it was pretty fast. It made good power and had a great power band. But its balance is what made it so cool and fast, took a ton of time but that chassis and motor combination was dialed.
two months away and the s**t is flying strong! gotta love it.
I'm thinking of parting out my sv and already miss it!
I might buy a different bike but LW is my first love.
Quote from: jarelj on January 29, 2008, 09:19:04 PM
Me too, yellow this year at least. So let's get the Yellow Plate list going too, just so we know where we stand. Here's what I can think of right now:
1. Dave T.
2. Jarel
3. Bruce
4. Jay H.
5. Dan B.
6. Dan Swenson (Or are you going to be Ex this year??)
Who else do we have?
I'll still be amateur. Only did 2-3 races a weekend (1 of which was alway F40 which doesn't count towards EX qualifying points), and missed a few weekends, so I didn't make point total for EX status.
Now, we need to convince Dean to let the whole field start at once!
I'm feeling warm and tingly all over..... :boink:
I wonder what the criteria for a 2 wave start is. Last year we always started all at once, but there wasn't that many of us. This year will be a different story. Especially since there will be at least 4 1000cc ducks among the yellow plates. Should be interesting going into turn one!!!
Has anyone petitioned to get Clayton's bike written out of the rules yet? I think the clause about sparking sliders being a dangerous distraction would fit. I would post pictures but all I have is a point and shoot and Clayton's bike keeps messing up the exposure. In fact, on a dark night in Nebraska...if you look towards Omaha you can see a faint red glow in the clouds.
Bring your tinted visors fellas!
All this excitement makes me wonder if I can borrow Kelly's bike for LW.
Oh, and how are my triples coming Dave?
Just to get Rich banned, I'll commit to the whole season! Add my name to the list.
Well I have never ran LW and being that I'm not getting any younger I thought it would be a little more laid back.
Just get a small bike and cruise around and have fun. Boy you guys sound serious. I think I'm getting a little scared. The bike I was going to use only makes about 60 HP and I don't want to be in everyones way. Maybe I'll have to rethink this and go back to the big bikes where I might have a chance.
no, we need you so we can ban rich
I asy we start a petition... if we get 10 full season guys/gals to commit, we ban Rich. who's with me? Filled in a few that already stated this over and over and over and over for Rich already.
Experts
1. Timmay
2. Dan
3. Anthony
4. Becka
5. Jack
6. Clayton
7. Shun
8. Greg
9. Stephen W
10. KC
Amateur
1. Dave T.
2. Jarel
3. Bruce
4. Jay H.
5. Dan B.
6. Dan Swenson
And this doesn't include the MW guys who will be running 3 of our events.
Guess its official.
Rich -- can't run LW we have to many people.
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 30, 2008, 06:43:11 AM
I asy we start a petition... if we get 10 full season guys/gals to commit, we ban Rich. who's with me? Filled in a few that already stated this over and over and over and over for Rich already.
Experts
1. Timmay
2. Dan
3. Anthony
4. Becka
5. Jack
6. Clayton
7. Shun
8. Greg
9. Stephen W
10. KC
Amateur
1. Dave T.
2. Jarel
3. Bruce
4. Jay H.
5. Dan B.
6. Dan Swenson
And this doesn't include the MW guys who will be running 3 of our events.
Guess its official.
Rich -- can't run LW we have to many people.
Ok, let me help edit your list:
Timmay is unconfirmed. You must remove him until further notice.
Greg is only running Thunderbike. That is only one LW class. When I'm thinking LW, I'm thinking SS, SB, GP, etc. Thunder is for the Buells.
B-Rock already said he wasn't going to two of the rounds. He is out.
No way KC would do a whole season. He likes his dirty bikes too much.
Getting closer though! I'm gonna have to dust off the ole R6 so I can sell her!
If I did get back into the LW game I was gonna look for a late model G2 SV......but lately I was thinking......if I could find a G1 at a good price......I could keep the R6 and have both.
Clayton, got anything you wanna make a "Rich Wu deal of a lifetime" on? Give me a call.
you now rich, if you don't make EVERY SINGLE ROUND you're going to pay for it
Quote"Rich Wu deal of a lifetime"
I think we can build an SV with a remote spark plug cutoff switch :lmao:
Quote from: benprobst on January 29, 2008, 06:01:31 PM
Ducatis suck! Hey Scott :biggrin:
Ben, you bet ducati's suck. This years build is well underway, everythings in pieces. I might need a 2nd job to cover the costs of this winter's build. I just spent $800 dollars on consumables, seals, belts, and gaskets, etc. You don't even want to know how much the Hi-Po stuff is costing. If I had known they were going to raise the ceiling to 800cc on SV's, I would have bought one instead of the Duc.
The Ohlins SBK forks on my SS cost more than a race SV. The ARC Exhaust, Brembo Race Brakes, Slipper, Motor Parts, Titanium bits, Sharkskinz etc just add to the pain... Yes in this way Ducati's can truly suck the money right out of your wallet. :wah:
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 30, 2008, 10:52:54 AM
The Ohlins SBK forks on my SS cost more than a race SV. The ARC Exhaust, Brembo Race Brakes, Slipper, Motor Parts, Titanium bits, Sharkskinz etc just add to the pain... Yes in this way Ducati's can truly suck the money right out of your wallet. :wah:
Can you put SBK forks on a SS?
Quote from: Rich on January 30, 2008, 07:38:11 AM
Ok, let me help edit your list:
Timmay is unconfirmed. You must remove him until further notice.
Greg is only running Thunderbike. That is only one LW class. When I'm thinking LW, I'm thinking SS, SB, GP, etc. Thunder is for the Buells.
B-Rock already said he wasn't going to two of the rounds. He is out.
No way KC would do a whole season. He likes his dirty bikes too much.
Getting closer though! I'm gonna have to dust off the ole R6 so I can sell her!
If I did get back into the LW game I was gonna look for a late model G2 SV......but lately I was thinking......if I could find a G1 at a good price......I could keep the R6 and have both.
Clayton, got anything you wanna make a "Rich Wu deal of a lifetime" on? Give me a call.
there is some confusion to that list Rich... that is the PETITION list to get you banned if we get 10 riders. :biggrin:
Sounds like excuses to me. As I mentioned before, its not like you race with 10 guys after T1 on your R6... you race with 2-3. And its not like its about contingency... you arent winning any on the R6 anyway! :ass:
Oh and your sisters hot!! Does she like bald guys?
and can you BELIEVE the price of gas in IL??? :lmao:
FWIW, i wont be racing SS, I am thinking GTL, SB and TB... pending what kinda power I'm throwin down.
Quote from: Ducati23 on January 30, 2008, 10:52:54 AM
The Ohlins SBK forks on my SS cost more than a race SV. The ARC Exhaust, Brembo Race Brakes, Slipper, Motor Parts, Titanium bits, Sharkskinz etc just add to the pain... Yes in this way Ducati's can truly suck the money right out of your wallet. :wah:
While I'd admit that the ARC exhaust look cool, but I have yet to see back to back dyno runs comparing it with the hindle, or the stock system. There's two ways to design an exhaust- cut and try or computer modeling. I doubt that ARC does either objectively. I will tell you that at least one very sophisticated computer model shows that a 2 into 1 is best, which is contrary to common wisdom about twins.
If you tabulate weight vs. cost (with a fudge factor for spinning and unsprung weight) you'll see that almost everything Titanium is a poor value as compared to mag wheels, smaller battery, lighter brake disks, etc. Fairings are the worst value of all, you have a negative weight savings with a lot of cost. I have yet to try a slipper clutch, my geriatric riding style hasn't required it yet.
I know that there can be a lot of variation with OEM duc parts, but I was thrilled with the stock forks. I just changed the springs. The stiction was very close to SB-level as-delivered.
I'd send you my spreadsheet to analyze weight/cost if your interested
I'm interested in your spreadsheet. Please send to goldwing702001@yahoo.com. THANKS!
Quote from: funsizeracing on January 30, 2008, 11:08:23 AM
Can you put SBK forks on a SS?
he means on his 1000"ss" not on the bike he is racing in Superpsport class...
so yes, I think thats the answer you where after bec... if not I'll go back to my corner...
Quote...Titanium is a poor value as compared to mag wheels, smaller battery, lighter brake disks, etc.
Good thing he has 16.5 forged mags and Brembo HP Rotors then.
Quote from: tstruyk on January 30, 2008, 12:16:16 PM
he means on his 1000"ss" not on the bike he is racing in Superpsport class...
so yes, I think thats the answer you where after bec... if not I'll go back to my corner...
Yep. I was thinking "SS" meant supersport. Nevermind.
Quote from: goldwing70 on January 30, 2008, 12:16:02 PM
I'm interested in your spreadsheet. Please send to goldwing702001@yahoo.com. THANKS!
Sounds like you have lots of Corse bling available to you at cost, throw some my way. I just spent $800 with you. Check your email, there's no magic to the spread sheet, it just alters spinning and unsprung mass by a factor of 1.5x and compiles it in one catagory. I also have one that figures it in terms of HP increase, but it seems a little optimistic to me.
The one I send you will not be the same as mine, I have removed the items that are not commercially available. I make many parts in my machine shop... so the costs are not valid unless you figure your (or your machinist) time is free.
Thats not the meaning of SS at all. I ride a ducati 1000 Super Sucky. Ducati altered the contingency cuttoff year at 2007, mine is 2006- thats pretty crappy considering buell goes to 2003.
At this rate, if Wu keeps dodging us we'll pass up the NESBA/Road America thread in a week
Yeah he hasn't piped in for quite some time. Becca did you threaten to spank him again.. :spank:
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 30, 2008, 01:38:26 PM
Yeah he hasn't piped in for quite some time. Becca did you threaten to spank him again.. :spank:
No, but I did mention something about his sister. :kicknuts:
Quote from: 123user on January 30, 2008, 12:03:25 PM
While I'd admit that the ARC exhaust look cool, but I have yet to see back to back dyno runs comparing it with the hindle, or the stock system. There's two ways to design an exhaust- cut and try or computer modeling. I doubt that ARC does either objectively. I will tell you that at least one very sophisticated computer model shows that a 2 into 1 is best, which is contrary to common wisdom about twins.
OK, I'll bite - 2 cylinders, 1 exhaust......short of twin cans what other options are there?
Boobs. I think his bike has Boobs.
My ARC exhaust is a copy of the Corsa system Franco Farne designed for the late 888 racers. Big tubes and twin silencers, not the odd looking in tail design.
As for light weight, I have a lots of Titanium from previous race bikes. So every fastener I could has been swapped out, even motor mounts and bigger stuff like that. Of course the Marchesini's with all Ti hardware, light rotors, light Ohlins Works SBK forks (@ 5 lbs less than the stockers), light Brembo Billet brake calipers (@ 3 lbs lighter than stock), Light engine parts inside, Light pipes and hangers, Light body work, minimal wiring, FuelCel, and everything else I can cut off, remove, modify or replace with something lighter is also being done. Cost to weight is irrelavant once it gets this stupid. It's going to be very light, but I'm sure some people have lighter Ducati SS machines, but that number would be very small.
I'm only racing LW SBK, LW GP, TB, F40 and Super Twins. I way too old to race any more classes than that without passing out in the heat or something worse.
(https://www.ccsforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ducatiomaha.com%2Fimages%2Fclaytonbike001.jpg&hash=e3d18f3361c50bef19a34a3670b8727e638fcc6f)
Quote from: APP_Racing on January 30, 2008, 01:38:26 PM
Yeah he hasn't piped in for quite some time. Becca did you threaten to spank him again.. :spank:
Damn tough crowd.
Some of us have "real" jobs during the day!
Scott, we tested different bodywork configurations as well as no bodywork, and the results were more than tangible. Stop trying to sell people on the fact that bodywork doesnt help you, it doess. We picked up 1200 rpm going from no bodywork to full bodywork and were able to pick up an additional 300 rpm modifying the way the bodywork hung on the motorcycle. All of this on a 75 hp 130-mph motorcyle. Imagine the difference on a 180 hp 180 mph moptorcycle.
I can tell you for a fact bodywork does make a difference. I was pulling into 6th gear at the finish line at Road A with bodywork, after my crash and no bodywork I was getting pulled like I was dragging an anchor and I never shifted into 6th at all
What about all those bikes I pulled down MAM's front straight on my nekid SV? Must have been that angled MX number plate. :)
Oh, I'm just totally biased on the bodywork thing. I like seeing what's going on under the skin. Bodywork and ram air are very difficult to measure empirically. Ben, you have the closest thing to data I've seen yet. I'd help, but my wind tunnel is broken. I'll actually be running a fairing this year, but only because the wind messed up my hair so much last year.
I stand corrected with Ducati23, he's obviously much better funded than my effort. Your already well beyond diminishing returns. Mine was 365 ready to race on the HPT scales last year- I was pretty happy with that at the time, but hopefully I'll be around 345 for this year. To get below that you need to get more creative and wealthier.
Anthony, the bike has juggs, not boobs. We've discussed this before.
Quote from: RMGSXR124 on January 30, 2008, 08:58:58 PM
What about all those bikes I pulled down MAM's front straight on my nekid SV? Must have been that angled MX number plate. :)
Hey Kevin
Are you losing your mind w/ old age?
That is HPT, not MAM.
And you appear to be next to last. You've got one EX behind you and the rest of the field is yellow plates. The reason you are "pulling them down the straight" is because you got a head start and they haven't passed you yet.
:)
See ya Saturday?
Quote from: Rich on January 30, 2008, 10:26:33 PM
Hey Kevin
Are you losing your mind w/ old age?
That is HPT, not MAM.
And you appear to be next to last. You've got one EX behind you and the rest of the field is yellow plates. The reason you are "pulling them down the straight" is because you got a head start and they haven't passed you yet.
:)
See ya Saturday?
Those are pics from the Tucker Rocky track day. That's me layin the smack down on my brothers GSXR750. #212.
I mention MAM because I was passing someone on an SV superbike, 700cc, GSXR1000 forks, 180 rear tire ect.... big time down the front straight. Him tucked in behind the fairing and me, getting my head ripped of by the wind!
Yes, I'll see you Sat. Bring your sis. I heard she's hot! (Paybacks rule)
Quote from: RMGSXR124 on January 30, 2008, 11:00:28 PM
Those are pics from the Tucker Rocky track day. That's me layin the smack down on my brothers GSXR750. #212.
I mention MAM because I was passing someone on an SV superbike, 700cc, GSXR1000 forks, 180 rear tire ect.... big time down the front straight. Him tucked in behind the fairing and me, getting my head ripped of by the wind!
Yes, I'll see you Sat. Bring your sis. I heard she's hot! (Paybacks rule)
Deal. Bring your daugther and we'll call it an even trade.
Dang Rich, can't talk smack about "The grids aren't big enough" anymore, so you go for the daughters. Man thats low.
So what your saying is you guy's don't think a stock 65 HP bike has much of a chance?
Didn't Shun win some AM races last year on a stock motored Ninja650? Couldn't be more than 62~65 horsepower there.
Quote from: BrettRay76 on January 31, 2008, 12:07:40 AM
So what your saying is you guy's don't think a stock 65 HP bike has much of a chance?
You'll be fine. LW classes are alot less aggressive than other classes in my opinion.
Hey, I hear Rich's mom is hot
Quote from: BrettRay76 on January 31, 2008, 12:07:40 AM
So what your saying is you guy's don't think a stock 65 HP bike has much of a chance?
I've won some expert races on a SS SV that dyno'd 62hp at the ASRA HPT race. I think that dyno reads low from what I was told, but I would think you aren't that far off of what you need if the bike does everything else right.
Quote from: Jack_Brock on January 31, 2008, 08:14:52 AM
I've won some expert races on a SS SV that dyno'd 62hp at the ASRA HPT race. I think that dyno reads low from what I was told, but I would think you aren't that far off of what you need if the bike does everything else right.
FP dyno's read about 15% lower than DJ numbers.
On a normal weekend at a reasonable track a low hp sv with a superior rider will beat the superior bike with a low talent rider. Some tracks will just kill you on a low hp bike, but most in the GP arent to bad if I remember right. As im sure you know Brett, its much more about chassis and ability on the lw bikes. Hell I got beat at the GNF by a fast SS SV and I was on my SB. I ran the faster lap times and led on the last lap, but the guy did a great job of taking advantage of my mistake and it was over. Same goes for whoopin rediculus bikes like Claytons, be in the right place to block the thing, and be in the right place to draft the monster and you will have no problems handling the guy late in the race.
Quote from: BrettRay76 on January 31, 2008, 12:07:40 AM
So what your saying is you guy's don't think a stock 65 HP bike has much of a chance?
Brett, show up, show 'em how to ride.
Quote from: RMGSXR124 on January 30, 2008, 08:58:58 PM
What about all those bikes I pulled down MAM's front straight on my nekid SV? Must have been that angled MX number plate. :)
Here's proof for Rich.....
Check about 5:20 in, Kevin is the first bike in the picture. At about 7:55, there is some really good footage. Man that guy brakes late!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-741799919069705014
Quote from: Jack_Brock on January 31, 2008, 08:14:52 AM
I've won some expert races on a SS SV that dyno'd 62hp at the ASRA HPT race. I think that dyno reads low from what I was told, but I would think you aren't that far off of what you need if the bike does everything else right.
A factory dyno (used at asra) reads about 11 to 12% low compared to a dynojet dyno.
Your bike would have make around 69 to 69.5hp on a dynojet.
Hey Guy! Should I buy some new rain tires this year? LOL!!!
I'm working on getting the bike here before Daytona. If it works out I will be at some of the local CCS races for sure.
Wait till you see it, it'll make you ... well just wait.
Quote from: BrettRay76 on February 01, 2008, 11:52:55 PM
I'm working on getting the bike here before Daytona. If it works out I will be at some of the local CCS races for sure.
Wait till you see it, it'll make you ... well just wait.
Which region?
Yellow or white?
Quote from: Rich on February 02, 2008, 03:44:02 PM
Which region?
Yellow or white?
Would you pay attention. He is a damn near 20 year white plate. He will be running MW and or GP.
How deep were the LW fields at Road America last year? EX and AM? Did they have 1 or 2 wave starts?
(RA LW grids?) 2- wave. We had 15-20 AMs in the LW classes....
Quote from: Cyklracer on February 06, 2008, 03:44:30 PM
How deep were the LW fields at Road America last year? EX and AM? Did they have 1 or 2 wave starts?
depends on class/race. Some LW races had 5 entries, others had 25. Almost all MW LW races that I have been a part of or have seen run 2 waves, expert than amatuer. In the past the GP LW grids have been small, and the ones I have seen/raced in are normally 1 wave with a row break between ex/am. Im sure there are exceptions to both "rules".
Ben,
I think Cyklracer was asking specifically about Road America, which is unlike any other Midwest race and unlike any other CCS race. You really need to try and fit it into your schedule. It's like no other track you've ever run and the turnout/competition is amazing!
Cyklracer,
I'll look to see if I saved any of the Grid sheets from last summer. (this is the reason I hang onto them) :thumb:
Without checking, I'm going to guess at about a 40-50 LW bike grid, EX and AM combined with a 2 wave start.
The MW races had 80+ bike grids with few no-shows.
for some reason I think I remember 64 for one of the races...it was nucking futz
We had 80+ in GTU at 2007 RA. Lightweight classes seemed like about 1/2 that number.
Road America, 2007
Race 1 Race 2
AM LWSuperSport 5 9
AM LWSuperBike 12 12
AM LWGP 18 17
AM GTLights 17
AM Thunderbike 14 8
AM LW-F40 9 9
AM SuperTwins 8 10
Quote from: wolf44 on February 07, 2008, 05:25:10 AM
for some reason I think I remember 64 for one of the races...it was nucking futz
I assume you are talking combined EX/AM grids? Looks like the biggest AM grid was 18?
These are the participants in the Amateur races only which were all run with Experts. The LW F-40 race was combined with Formula 40 Am & EX for a race with well over 60 racers. I signed up the day before so I was gridded on the last row, holding the brake to keep from roling down the hill before the green flag!
Yeah, I was in that 80+ bike grid. It WAS nucking futz - there were bikes down in every corner from turn #1. I backed off the pace due to all the crashing - and found myself getting smacked down by a riderless bike shooting back on track. Thanks to that mishap I now have symetry with a steel plate being added to my right collarbone to match my left collarbone. Lesson here? Ride at your normal pace to stay with the group you're used to riding around.
Let's call that race the primary reason I'm going to start riding lightweight again - and I get to pick up the SV this weekend!!
Quote from: Burt Munro on February 07, 2008, 01:59:59 AM
Ben,
I think Cyklracer was asking specifically about Road America, which is unlike any other Midwest race and unlike any other CCS race. You really need to try and fit it into your schedule. It's like no other track you've ever run and the turnout/competition is amazing!
Cyklracer,
I'll look to see if I saved any of the Grid sheets from last summer. (this is the reason I hang onto them) :thumb:
Without checking, I'm going to guess at about a 40-50 LW bike grid, EX and AM combined with a 2 wave start.
The MW races had 80+ bike grids with few no-shows.
Ive raced there. He asked what the AM lw grids were like at Road America and I let him know, I told him how many bikes were on the grid this past year. 5-20 bikes.
:lmao:
yeah rich i was think combine am/ex grids
New AMA Supermoto schedule is out. With the changes, I'll be able to do all the GP rounds. Sack up Wu!
Wu who? :jerkoff:
Kevin, Awesome...
http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,19777.0.html
ok... remember NOONE tell Rich we were all full of shit about this whole thread until AFTER his bike sells :biggrin:
Quote from: Rich on February 09, 2008, 05:40:57 PM
http://www.ccsforum.com/index.php/topic,19777.0.html
Pussy
Some things have came up and I'll probably only be doing about 2-3 great plains rounds this year.
Quote from: Spooner on February 10, 2008, 10:45:31 PM
Pussy
Its not too late for you to get back into LWs Spoon!
Quote from: wolf44 on February 11, 2008, 07:51:22 AM
Some things have came up and I'll probably only be doing about 2-3 great plains rounds this year.
Grow a pair Dan or Rich won't play... Sack up
Hate to have to post this...... but.....
Seems as though between family and work I can not make more than 3 rounds myself.
Just received our marketing schedule for the year and it overlaps almost every weekend. Trying to figure it out but.....
Add to that the new little one and we aren't going to race much this year.
Well, since we are all sharing our financial difficulties....
Between my medical bills for the multilple surgeries on my arm, my daughter getting braces, and our big trip to see the worlds largest butter sculpture this summer, I don't know if I'll make any races.
This thread is getting a little sad with all the people dropping out. I just picked up an SV this weekend and will be racing MW schedule. Hopefully there will be some good races at the MW/GP combined races!
You guys got me thinking. With my new job being so crazy, and with the price of fuel I think I am just going to start racing R/C cars this year. Motor builds are a lot cheaper and they only use a cup of U4 a weekend! Have fun guys!
Sac-up is right!
Okay, I just picked up my SV this weekend. Picked it up from a nice, warm state not until I was about 30 miles away from home in the frigid (-1 yesterday at 4pm) icecap here in Iowa it occured to me that I hadn't taken the time to empty the coolant system of its water-wetter based content. :banghead:
So now I have a technical question - what signs of damage should I look for once I get it thawed and emptied????
if you need a bike for next year let me know I'll give you a good price on my sv if I end up not racing at all which very well could happen
Yeah, let me her it Jack. Little AJs medical bills are over 158,000 and we just got new ones in the mail. I had no idea this was coming. Add to that my boss is down my throat for hiring to many people and throwing off the budget numbers. He is the one who told me to staff the territory and approved the plan. Its going to be a bad year.
Add to it the election crap, gas prices rising, my 401(k) looks like the Iraqi War budget (in the wrong direction).
Quote from: wolf44 on February 11, 2008, 01:44:11 PM
if you need a bike for next year let me know I'll give you a good price on my sv if I end up not racing at all which very well could happen
I'll start the bidding at $500
If I can get it anywhere around there, I might just be able to race with the money I make from selling the bike I have
Wow!! this is all very depressing. I thought I was in a tough spot being unemployed (ok underemployed) for over 4 months but that may change - big interview Wed. with Baxter Healthcare for a sr principal engineer. Either way a couple of teams have asked me to endurance ride so worst case....
Somebody loan me a LW (nothing fancy....) and I'll help fill the grids boys........
BK
Quote from: Willyz on February 12, 2008, 12:18:08 AM
Somebody loan me a LW (nothing fancy....) and I'll help fill the grids boys........
BK
In that case I'll have Greg warm up the SRX for ya!
Quote from: Cyklracer on February 11, 2008, 12:56:48 PM
Sac-up is right!
Okay, I just picked up my SV this weekend. Picked it up from a nice, warm state not until I was about 30 miles away from home in the frigid (-1 yesterday at 4pm) icecap here in Iowa it occured to me that I hadn't taken the time to empty the coolant system of its water-wetter based content. :banghead:
So now I have a technical question - what signs of damage should I look for once I get it thawed and emptied????
DO NOT START IT!!! Thaw the bike out and drain the oil. See if there's a bunch of water in there. If there is, pull the Cylinder head covers and check to see if the freeze plugs popped out. If they have, no big deal. Clean them up and tap them back in. I used a bit of Permatex gasket sealer to make sure they didn't leak. This happened to me and there was no damage even after I started it up for 5 minutes. If you want to buy new freeze plugs, check with Spears Enterprises.
Quote from: MACOP1104 on February 12, 2008, 09:29:22 AM
DO NOT START IT!!! Thaw the bike out and drain the oil. See if there's a bunch of water in there.
Managed to get it thawed and drained the coolant - no sign of oil in it. Now next step is to change the oil tonight. Fingers crossed, we'll see....
Quote from: Cyklracer on February 12, 2008, 09:42:17 AM
Managed to get it thawed and drained the coolant - no sign of oil in it. Now next step is to change the oil tonight. Fingers crossed, we'll see....
I'm interested to see if the water pump makes it. I guess it depends on how the impellor mounts. If it leaks, time for a new one.
Quote from: MACOP1104 on February 12, 2008, 09:29:22 AM
DO NOT START IT!!! Thaw the bike out and drain the oil. See if there's a bunch of water in there. If there is, pull the Cylinder head covers and check to see if the freeze plugs popped out. If they have, no big deal. Clean them up and tap them back in. I used a bit of Permatex gasket sealer to make sure they didn't leak. This happened to me and there was no damage even after I started it up for 5 minutes. If you want to buy new freeze plugs, check with Spears Enterprises.
Where exactly are the freeze plugs located?
Quote from: benprobst on February 13, 2008, 12:15:46 AM
Where exactly are the freeze plugs located?
Okay, now unfortunately having some experience with this....
If you pull the covers and look directly down the head the freeze plugs in SVs are located on either side horizontally of the spark plug. They're small cup-shaped metal plugs, about an inch in diameter, placed concave side out in the plug holes. If they're out of place, you'll see nicely down inside the head casting to the water jacket above and around the valves and valvestems. If the rear one's are pushed out they'll generally be sitting atop the plug holes. If the front one's are pushed out, you'll get the treat of gently extracting them from down around the exhaust valve srings.
Go ahead, ask me how I now know this....
Quote from: Jack_Brock on February 12, 2008, 11:41:28 AM
I'm interested to see if the water pump makes it. I guess it depends on how the impellor mounts. If it leaks, time for a new one.
My pump was leaking a tiny bit, just a drop or so every now and then so I just went ahead and put in new seals. No need to get another pump unless you started it when frozen and the impellers broke off the shaft.
Quote from: MACOP1104 on February 12, 2008, 09:29:22 AM
DO NOT START IT!!! Thaw the bike out and drain the oil. See if there's a bunch of water in there. If there is, pull the Cylinder head covers and check to see if the freeze plugs popped out. If they have, no big deal. Clean them up and tap them back in.
+1
The Suzuki shop manual doesn't even MENTION freeze plugs, and provides no diagram of the coolant system to indicate where freeze plugs would be. I've applied hi-temp gasket sealant to them and tapped them back in flush with the head casings. Re-filled the coolant system, but noted that I was still getting some of the oil-sludge leaking out of the oil drain plug. Not sure if that was just the result of the oil viscosity decreasing as the temps in the garage warmed up (electric space heater, plus kerosene heater, plus 1000 watt work lights all on), or of there being another leak somewhere in the system (a blown head gasket?), so I'm letting it sit today with a measuring cup under it so I can see how much additional leaks out, and what it's composition is, before figuring out next steps.
Quote from: Cyklracer on February 13, 2008, 09:25:34 AM
+1
The Suzuki shop manual doesn't even MENTION freeze plugs, and provides no diagram of the coolant system to indicate where freeze plugs would be. I've applied hi-temp gasket sealant to them and tapped them back in flush with the head casings. Re-filled the coolant system, but noted that I was still getting some of the oil-sludge leaking out of the oil drain plug. Not sure if that was just the result of the oil viscosity decreasing as the temps in the garage warmed up (electric space heater, plus kerosene heater, plus 1000 watt work lights all on), or of there being another leak somewhere in the system (a blown head gasket?), so I'm letting it sit today with a measuring cup under it so I can see how much additional leaks out, and what it's composition is, before figuring out next steps.
I had to pull the covers on the left and right side of the motor and there was a ton of milkshake sludge in all the nooks and crannies. I also had to wipe out all the sludge under the valvecovers. After that, I did about 5 oil changes with a heat cycle between each one using the cheapest Walmart oil I could find. I changed the filter after the 5th oil change and it was good to go....
Dan,
I have a sweet New SV700 SBK motor ready to install. New - never started - I quit SV racing before I had a chance to use this motor. It has Carrilo H beam rods, high polished & balanced crank, +3 mm bore & pistons, MegaCycle cams 08/010 grind, +1mm SS valves, Yosh springs & retainers, APE billet cam adjusters, APE cam sprockets, FBG under cut transmission Up/Down, Some lightened internal gears, modified oil pump +10 psi, ported heads, all new cam chains, bearings & gaskets. Did I mention it is new? I want $2500 since there is more than that in parts alone without factoring in the cost of a donor engine and labor and machine shop fees and shipping costs. Since you are close by and a friend I'd sell it to you for $2000. It has not been frozen btw. I'd think you could probably beat Rich Wu on an SV powered by this engine.
Clayton
Quote from: Ducati23 on February 13, 2008, 02:49:08 PM
Dan,
I have a sweet New SV700 SBK motor ready to install. New - never started - I quit SV racing before I had a chance to use this motor. It has Carrilo H beam rods, high polished & balanced crank, +3 mm bore & pistons, MegaCycle cams 08/010 grind, +1mm SS valves, Yosh springs & retainers, APE billet cam adjusters, APE cam sprockets, FBG under cut transmission Up/Down, Some lightened internal gears, modified oil pump +10 psi, ported heads, all new cam chains, bearings & gaskets. Did I mention it is new? I want $2500 since there is more than that in parts alone without factoring in the cost of a donor engine and labor and machine shop fees and shipping costs. Since you are close by and a friend I'd sell it to you for $2000. It has not been frozen btw. I'd think you could probably beat Rich Wu on an SV powered by this engine.
Clayton
Not frozen AND would beat Wu? I'll give you a call shortly....
In the interest of engine parity, Wu can buy my SV superbike motor with 3mm overbore, APE adjustable cams, etc, etc.... :cheers:
Quote from: Ducati23 on February 13, 2008, 02:49:08 PM
I'd think you could probably beat Rich Wu on an SV powered by this engine.
Clayton
trust me... you dont need a ripper of a motor to beat The Wu :kicknuts:
"Since you are close by and a friend I'd sell it to you for $2000."
Clayton didn't you mean 3000? :)
That sounds like a pretty strong motor
Anthony,
Clayton has an instore special just for you! Anything in the shop - 2 for the price of 3 !
He wouldn't do this for just anyone - but you're special!!! :biggrin:
Quote from: Burt Munro on February 14, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
Anthony,
Clayton has an instore special just for you! Anything in the shop - 2 for the price of 3 !
He wouldn't do this for just anyone - but you're special!!! :biggrin:
Hey, I thought everyone got that deal. Why is Anthony so special?
Because i promised to lift at the end of the straightaways on my stock 02 SV so that his bike looks fast!
To bad you guys are not referring to LightWeight Grand Prix...Because I would be willing to bust out a TZ for that...Rich and Tim would like that...
Quote from: Jamie951 on February 14, 2008, 04:11:42 PM
To bad you guys are not referring to LightWeight Grand Prix...Because I would be willing to bust out a TZ for that...Rich and Tim would like that...
Most of us with SVs will be running LWGP because we have mild superbikes, so the 3 classes we are legal for are LWSB, LWGP, and Thunderbike. Not to mention, it is the LW money race.
Disaster averted - 24 hours with full coolant system and open oil drain plug and no sign of any fluid leaks. But, I'll still be calling Clayton about the Wukiller.
Quote from: Jamie951 on February 14, 2008, 04:11:42 PM
To bad you guys are not referring to LightWeight Grand Prix...Because I would be willing to bust out a TZ for that...Rich and Tim would like that...
Bring it bitch :finger:
:ahhh:
Quote from: tstruyk on February 15, 2008, 09:41:45 AM
Bring it bitch :finger:
Unfortunately, We have actually sold all the TZ's that I use to race. Plus I am attempting to run as many AMA and ASRA events as I can. So no LWGP for me, just Middleweight stuff...
:ahhh:
thats awesome man! I dont know how much I can help this year with you guys but I'd like to get to at least the RA round again! BTW, see if you still have that power cord for my digital camera in the RV would ya, call me if you or your fam find it!
thanks man.
the sv is painted and almost ready to go!!!
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Looks SuperSport Legal to me. Well at least as much as Clayton's.
eagleracing"s Erik konigsberg will be running lw classes this year !!!!!!!!!!!!1
what is wrong with wanting contingency mony???? :finger:
Quote from: APP_Racing on February 17, 2008, 05:53:48 PM
Looks SuperSport Legal to me. Well at least as much as Clayton's.
I don't race SuperSport and I don't race classes that require treaded tires... Slicks are cool and I like cool stuff. Just got some cool Woodcraft digi warmers from my friend Eric, they should be cool or is it hot? hmmm. LWGP LWSBK TB ST F40 yeah baby!
Dan J the bike looks good painted. Just got back from Indy, I'm exhausted.
Who Ran WU off the forum? Haven't seen anything from here in days. Did he take use seriously?
Quote from: wolf44 on February 17, 2008, 05:27:41 PM
the sv is painted and almost ready to go!!!
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Nice Dan .... until you crash again!! I'll make sure to bring the mx number plate and a bunch of spares to all of the races!!!
Quote from: APP_Racing on February 21, 2008, 12:55:10 PM
Who Ran WU off the forum? Haven't seen anything from here in days. Did he take use seriously?
Sorry man.....I'm back......still tryin to find an SV....and sell the R6.
clayton, hook the brother up will yeah.
do we have to do everything?
============================================================
For sale 2002 SV650 multiple race winning bike.The bike is in perfect condition and ready to race.I am looking to purchase a HWT to race a couple of races in 2008 and hopefully many races in 2009 so the sv has to go.I built the bike from street/stock in 2005.
The bike has:
Brand new paint (wheels also)
penske rear set up for about 205lbs. GMD New spring and set up in 2007
GMD reworked forks for 2007.New internals
Gpr damper
Full exhaust with M4 Ti can/extra misc can also.
woodcraft rearsets
RK 520 chain
Many vortex sprockets.
Tach
Misc extras
2 extra sets of pull offs
$3600
Again the bike is in perfect condition and ready to race.The bike is fast for SS. I have won several races on this bike.I can send pics.
Kevin
#574
Kevinarrowood@charter.net
I think I want a 2nd gen though.........although I've heard that the 1st gens are more reliable.
Clock is ticking....I've got to get this figured out soon!
POLL
Who doesn't believe Rich will buy an SV and come run with us?
Rich, we have one Gen1 on hand if you can't find one before the season. Cost will depend on what you want on it. We can build to your specs. Better bring money if you want to beat AD and DJ because it sounds like they have painted a target on you. I always liked the G1 with FCR's better than the G2. Kevin Clark & AD seem to go pretty good on theirs.
SV 88 is buying the WU destroyer motor so he may have something for you guys if he can ride his bike as fast as that motor will carry him. My bike is ready to go. I'm almost ready physically, just 50 or so pounds to go!
CP
Well, I am ready to. Supersport bike is apart and no front end (forks were tweaked and I didn't even crash it last year). Superbike, well its always in pieces. Just more than normal that the moment.
Quote from: APP_Racing on February 23, 2008, 04:24:11 PM
POLL
Who doesn't believe Rich will buy an SV and come run with us?
Its gonna be hard man.
R6 has to go.
Good SV has to be found an purchased.
Topeka is in what - two months?
Thats a lot to get done.
It is finally done! :thumb: Yes it does copy the Ducati MotoGP paint scheme. It is painted a special color called Rosso GP - about three shades redder than Neon Orange. We weighed it. It's light but you don't need to know how less than SV light it is. CP
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Quote from: Ducati23 on March 05, 2008, 05:31:57 PM
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Damn that's pretty!
Looking forward to seeing you guys in a couple weeks to pick up the motor - guess I'll have to figure out a way to drop a couple more pounds myself to keep the weight/power ratio on parity with you!
Dan
I don't know Jack and Dan, guess we will need to wear the extra dark visors when we pass this beast.
:wah: Good Luck fellas
Quote from: Ducati23 on March 05, 2008, 05:31:57 PM
It is finally done! :thumb: Yes it does copy the Ducati MotoGP paint scheme. It is painted a special color called Rosso GP - about three shades redder than Neon Orange. We weighed it. It's light but you don't need to know how less than SV light it is. CP
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Looks fancy.
I'm still wondering how sparky sliders are an outlawed distraction, but that paint is legal. Pictures don't begin to describe how bright that thing is. To simulate the brightness at home simply look directly into the sun for a few seconds.
it wont pass tech anyway. Plates are the wrong color of white.
Should I paint mine?
:whine: :wah: :whine: :wah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah:
Sounds like PeNi5 evny... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
So what is the chance that the new AMA owners will put in some sort of Thunderbike class or Lightweight class?
Quote from: APP_Racing on March 09, 2008, 12:07:03 PM
So what is the chance that the new AMA owners will put in some sort of Thunderbike class or Lightweight class?
They looked into it-not enough girls to fill the grids though ;)
We have Rich and Rebecca. What more would they want.
Quote from: APP_Racing on March 10, 2008, 01:00:59 AM
We have Rich and Rebecca. What more would they want.
Hey now! Watch who you're calling a girl!
We don't want Rich to get his feelings hurt.
:spank: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh: :ahhh:
Quote from: APP_Racing on March 10, 2008, 01:00:59 AM
We have Rich and Rebecca. What more would they want.
B@stard
Glad you are so easily pleased.
Hey Clayton
Sent ya a PM......email me
Anyone interested in a nice race prepped DS1000 Super Sport? Mine will be for sale by spring...I'll be posting in the Classifieds soon.
I have a Ducati SS DS 1000 I will be putting up for sale. It has been completely rebuilt 0 Hours on the bike after the refit, new everything. Not SuperSport legal any more. This bike has won 6 National Championships. I will be listing it in the classifieds soon. Built by Moto Corse Performance. If anyone is interested in one of the fastest lightweight bikes around let me know.
As Heartland Park Approaches are how we sitting.
Anyone want to make a guess as to what the grid sizes will be?
I registered on Friday...
I'm hoping for 20+ grids just to rub it in Wu's face :biggrin:
Everyone bring your camera's and video devices. Becca is going to rub something in Wu's Face at HPT.
I think he might actually faint or run away all scareeeeeddded and all.
Hey Wu! Have a bike yet?
Yep! A 600!
So any early indications of grid size for the following races @ HTP next weekend:
TC friday- the STT class (LW)
EX LW SS and SB???
I suspect and hope that I'll be racing against more than 3 others like last year @ AM level.
Looking forward to seeing some of you and meeting others for the first time.
steve.
Quote from: APP_Racing on April 14, 2008, 12:46:26 PM
Anyone want to make a guess as to what the grid sizes will be?
With diesel at $4.09 a gallon and tire prices going up.........I don't know......four?
Quote from: Spooner on April 16, 2008, 12:07:40 AM
Yep! A 600!
Which is for sale! Somebody buy it so I can join your 20 bike grids!
What a great LW weekend! Plenty of close racing in both the EX and AM ranks.
Looking forward to running with you guys through the rest of the GP season!!!
Clayton Potter is a big bully....at least thats what he looked like on his 1000ss when he was leaning in on that little guy on the 250....I'll post some vids up later this week
Yeah, the weather sucked, but good spirited competition all weekend long-Gotta love LW!
On another note, I heard Dan Jasa is questionable for the next round. I guess Clayton passed him too closely and the flash from the bright ass orange paint on that Ducati burnt Jasas retnas.....luckly, eyes are the fastest healing organ in the human body :biggrin:
Crap, looks like I was slow to post Dan posted at the same time, now it looks like we are ganging up on Clayton.
Oh well, on a serious note, I would like to say thanks to Clayton. I feel like he really put a lot of effort into doing what he could to build up the LW grids. It is a great place to race with good competition and a lot of characters. The bikes are a lot of fun, and relatively cheap. Here is to hoping we get more converts. Thanks again to Clayton for his efforts. See everybody at MAM.
Jack,
If you sponser me I'll bring my SV out and play.
I would just like to say thanks to everyone who showed up - facing time away from work & family, travel expenses, weather concerns, etc. The lightweight classes provided for some of the best racing all weekend, maybe the best. :thumb:
I enjoyed the very close racing with so many of you. It was the most fun I've had racing in years - I'm sincere when I say that there isn't a better group of riders to race with than this group. We had a blast, close racing, fun passing, close finishes and no nonsense on our part. The DQ thing in LWSS by CCS was not really needed though, was it?
I felt bad for those two stroke guys during GP, they probably didn't expect some fat guy on a LW class machine run past that way in the corners. :spank: I respect Bruce Lind but I want to win just as much as anyone else, but I really wanted to ride with Jack and that 2smoke was in my way... Can't wait to see some of Dan's on bike footage from that race.
Anthony hope your left hand isn't broken - it looked bad (talk about bright, AD's new leathers are only two shades darker than the sun). Dan Swenson did Ducati Omaha proud putting the Wu killer motor SV on the box almost every time he rode it. I think we can be proud of Dan Jasa's SV too that thing flew and his suspension seemed to work awesome. We're all glad some of the Midwest guys showed up. I went out to dinner with a group of them Sat night. George's SS was a rocket. I need to keep losing weight and get a motor like his. The next race can't come soon enough. :cheers:
Quote from: Rising on April 28, 2008, 12:55:01 PM
Jack,
If you sponser me I'll bring my SV out and play.
You would do well for sure(you looked like Matt Mladin the last time I saw you ride:), but I don't see myself sponsoring anyone in the near future. If I ever won the lottery, I'd be sure to help fill up the LW grids though.
I had a good time too and really appreciated help from Jack B, Dan J, Anthony D, Mark S. once they identified that I was not going to be a threat this weekend. I was disapointed to not be more competitive however my lap times went from over 2:10 down to 2:02's so I did accomplish some stuff.
Looking forward to playing with you guys @ MAM and Road America. Now, where can I find another 10 ponies (supersport legal)???
Tryng to get a bike for the Hallett (May 31) TC to maintain Team Shakka 4 Life's strangle hold on the GT lights lead!!
Quote from: Ducati23 on April 28, 2008, 07:23:32 PM
Anthony hope your left hand isn't broken - it looked bad (talk about bright, AD's new leathers are only two shades darker than the sun). Dan Swenson did Ducati Omaha proud putting the Wu killer motor SV on the box almost every time he rode it. I think we can be proud of Dan Jasa's SV too that thing flew and his suspension seemed to work awesome. We're all glad some of the Midwest guys showed up. I went out to dinner with a group of them Sat night. George's SS was a rocket. I need to keep losing weight and get a motor like his. The next race can't come soon enough. :cheers:
The Wussasin ran great!! Joel Spalding from the MW region also ran great on his Buell. In the second LWGP race, the only experts faster than the 2 were John Brock and Mike Danielson. You guys better hope Dean does a 2-wave start at MAM, Wussasin eees commming for youuuuu! :biggrin:
Quote from: SV88 on April 29, 2008, 12:40:24 PM
Tryng to get a bike for the Hallett (May 31) TC to maintain Team Shakka 4 Life's strangle hold on the GT lights lead!!
I think what Steve (SV88) meant to say was.... Team $hakka 4 Life's "STRANGE" hold on the GT lights lead!! LOL :ass: :thumb:
Quote from: Jack_Brock on April 29, 2008, 09:14:39 AM
You would do well for sure(you looked like Matt Mladin the last time I saw you ride:), but I don't see myself sponsoring anyone in the near future. If I ever won the lottery, I'd be sure to help fill up the LW grids though.
It would be fun to come out and race but the time and financial commitment it takes is keeping me from doing that.
Maybe one of these years I will just do Hallett and/or HPT.
My CCS liscence expired in 03, would I have to retake the school to get it renewed?