Top 10 number system for novices turning experts

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...can't we all just be happy for how things are and look forward to a great coming season???

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I don't think it's a matter of people not being happy or looking for ways to knock the system. It's just an idea that has some merrit, a way to reward an AM for working hard and entering every race. Maybe even give them a chance at some extra sponsorship dollars. But who knows, might be just another reason to cherry pick. :)

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Actually, this whole thread was started by Edgar (the whining Colombian) Dorn.  He got his butt thoroughly whupped by me and Casper in 2002, but still managed to finish high overall by entering about 40 races per weekend.  Edgar knows that he's been blessed with luck that far outreaches his talent, and wants a Pseudo top-ten plate because for him it's never going to get any better than this!  Next year, he has to go prove himself against Ed Key in expert lightweight.  (I doubt he'd do any better against Montez and Gorden in 600, but Casper and I will be there, so you know Dorn will stay away!)  I say give Edgar his plate, and then just let the scorers ignore him.  It won't really change the outcome of the races...
Merry Christmas Edgar! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Protein Filled]

Oh Chris,

thoroughly whupped, huh? You are just jealous cuz you would not get one.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

I just thought it was a good concept and since the CRA can do it, I would think that CCS could have too...I know it would be confusing to score, but if we go to transponders I figured it would make it easier since you always have the number of the transponder as the one being recorded. I understand that if the transponders fail it would revert to manual scoring, but that should never happen, right?

Regarding top ten scoring for experts, can anyone explain the Chuck Stephan scenario in the midwest for me? I could enter every single race as an expert if I had the money to waste and BUY a top ten plate...

[harb990]

Why not reserve 11 thru 20 for the top amatuers turning to expert - but only if they want to change from their original number??

[sdiver68]

I know...CCS should just give every AM top 10 from the previous year a big gold star sticker like you used to get on your papers in Elem. school  ;D  In fact, on second thought, make it white and that will serve as the front number plate.

That way all the experts would think to themselves...damn I have to run against 3 stars this race  :D  ;D

[Thingy]

Why not reserve 11 thru 20 for the top amatuers turning to expert - but only if they want to change from their original number??

I don't like that idea...  :-[  

My number is EX 13

[the_weggie_man]

What  Jack said in his last post.  If there is no way of scoring this, which puzzles me. Sh-t we can send people to the moon, right?  Then how about a ceremonial, hang on your wall only yellow plate with a number 1-10 for the top Ams.  Just recognize these guys for their hard earned places as you do the experts.  Stand 'em up front at the banquet so all can see the new experts for '03 and beyond.

I sent a letter to Kevin Elliot about this earlier this month. Hell, if CCS won't recognize these guys maybe I'll do it myself if they'll give me the time at the banquet.

[sdiver68]

I don't think Jack meant to imply that it was 'impossible' to change.  It probably is impossible to input today, as the program(s) sit.  (BTW, sending people to the moon required less computer power than what is held in the average Palm Pilot  :D )

Changing a field from Number to Character in the database is not rocket science in and of itself.  However, you have to analyze the impact of making that change on the entire program(s).  Does it effect sorting?  Table joins?  Data integrity?  Interfaces?  These, and other considerations, make it expensive to change a program after its already written.

This is basically what R6_Philly was saying.

So, the question is, would you rather spend CCS money on that or something else?

[K3 Chris Onwiler]

Edgar has stars all over his leathers already.  How much harder and faster can a guy stroke his own ego?
Just for the record Edgar, I was 6th in GP, 8th in GL, and 10th in MW.  Imagine the results I might have achieved if I had run more than three races per weekend!  How many classes were you entering? ;)

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Edgar has stars all over his leathers already.  How much harder and faster can a guy stroke his own ego?

LOL! You guys are killing me! :)

Finally I got my answer, it's for the plates man, the plates! Or do you guys race for TV air time? :P

Whatever... Congrats to the top ten AMs, heck (can I say that?) congrats to everyone that races and congratulations on your own personal victories!

[Protein Filled]

Edgar has stars all over his leathers already.  How much harder and faster can a guy stroke his own ego?
Just for the record Edgar, I was 6th in GP, 8th in GL, and 10th in MW.  Imagine the results I might have achieved if I had run more than three races per weekend!  How many classes were you entering? ;)

I already mentioned that it's only midwest that counts...

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