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Started by spyderchick, May 15, 2007, 10:18:48 AM

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mdr14

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Super Dave

Press is good.  That's good for Bobby, that's good for Safety First.

It's also good for CCS racers at Blackhawk, Blackhawk Farms, and CCS.

CCS doesn't bother getting any write ups at Blackhawk even though it can be argued that it's one of it's most important venues for it's finacial well being.  It's close to the Chicago, Milwaukee,  etc. market and has been a source for a lot of entries five to six times every year for a period that has been approaching two decades.
Super Dave

Mongo

So press is good even if it's factually incorrect?  Doesn't make sense to me.

Sean P. Clarke
WERA Motorcycle Roadracing
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G 97

I don't know if I would call it factually incorrect considering there seems to be widespread disagreement to what the facts may be.  Rather there is a debate on what the lap record actually is and by whom. 

In any event, it would be nice in the future if the sanctioning body would take the appropriate measures to capture, record and publish / release this type of information in order to avoid this scenario.   

Does WERA offer any type of training classes to other orgs?   
G

Jeff

If we didn't care about the small details, people wouldn't bitch about Nicky Hayden as a MotoGP world champion, or George Bush as a president...  (well, okay, they'd still bitch about W).

Good Press?  I don't know that I see it that way Dave...  It was good until it was corrected.

Anybody can claim anything.  The issue is providing fact to back it up.  In this case that's lacking on pretty much all accounts.  The FACT that people ran (subjectively) FAST remains, but that wasn't the point of the story...
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Quote from: G 97 on May 16, 2007, 07:52:57 AM
Does WERA offer any type of training classes to other orgs?  

I think WERA is retraining the uneducated right now!




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Mongo

Funny as the comments are lets keep the sanctioning bodies out of it.  Thanks!

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Helmsman

So ccs doesn't keep the lap times from previous years?  if the did a simple computer program would reveal the fastest lap in each class.

I do find it amusing that an Professional AMA team did a press release bragging about going to a club race and setting a lap record....and they may not even have been correct.  Whoops.

Big props to Bobby for being able to run those kind of times on his first trip to the track.  But the team sure didn't do itself (or him) and PR favors by releasing that press release.  (nor by coming back and bad mouth other riders in this thread)  (just my view as a slow assed am)

Woofentino Pugrossi

Quote from: Helmsman on May 16, 2007, 12:28:56 PM
So ccs doesn't keep the lap times from previous years?  if the did a simple computer program would reveal the fastest lap in each class.

Honestly theres no reason to keep them other than the overall track record.


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Burt Munro

If I read it on the Internet it must be TRUE!!! :jerkoff:

These are the only track records I accept even though they're from 1994!!

Remember, if you read it on the internet it must be true!




Race Track                      Location
Rider                       Time        Speed        Event
Machine                           Date               Tuner

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Blackhawk Farms Raceway       S. Beloit, IL.
Bob Meister               1:13.70      92.833 mph     AMA-CCS Sprint
1992 Yamaha OW01/FZR1000         9-12-93              Tony Tice

Bonneville Raceway            Salt Lake City, UT.
Shane Turpin              1:01.58      87.69 mph      USBA Sprint
1992 Yamaha FZR 1000             9-13-92              Mike Hennessy

Brainerd Int'l Raceway        Brainerd, MN.
Doug Polen                1:39.858     108.154 mph    AMA Superbike
1992 Ducati 888                  6-13-92              Eraldo Ferracci

Bremerton Raceway             Bremerton, WA.
Shawn Roberti              0:53.5       67.26 mph     WMRRA Sprint
1994 Yamaha YZF 750              9-11-94              Mike Velasco

Bridgehampton Raceway         Long Island, NY.
Dale Quarterley            1:40.16      100.64 mph    AMA/CCS Sprint
1992 Kawasaki ZX-7R              9-6-92               Dale Quarterley

Charlotte Motor Speedway      Concord, NC.
Tom Kipp                   1:21.301     99.630 mph    AMA Superbike
1993 Honda RC30                  5-1-91               Al Ludington

Coos Bay Int'l Speedway       Coos Bay, OR.
Josh Bryan                 0:47.10             mph     RAM Sprint
1989 FZR 600                     9-10-94              Ron Hopkins

Daytona Int'l Speedway        Daytona Beach, FL.
Pascal Picotte             1:50.068     116.437 mph   AMA Superbike
1994 Ducati 955                  3-3-94               Eraldo Ferracci

Firebird Int'l Raceway         Chandler, AZ.
Mark Foster                1:11.46      80.60 mph     AMA-CCS Sprint
1993 Yamaha TZ 250               5-16-93            Matt Flanagan/Dave Kinison

Gateway Int'l Raceway          E. St. Louis, IL.
Tray Batey                 1:35.75      82.70 mph     WERA Sprint
1994 Suzuki GSXR 750             6-19-94              Ron Scrima

Grattan Raceway                Grattan, MI.
Kurt Hall                  1:24.03      85.653 mph    WERA Sprint
1992 Suzuki GSXR 1100            6-28-92              Keith Perry

Gray's Harbor Street Course    Aberdeen, WA.
Keith Pinkstaff            0:56.4       63.83 mph     WMRRA Sprint
1994 Kawasaki ZX-7               8-7-94               Zlock Bros.

Hallett Motor Racing Circuit   Hallett, OK.
Sam McDonald               1:20.05      80.953 mph    AMA/CCS Sprint
1987 Yamaha FZ 750               6-25-88              Larry Kano

Hawaii Raceway Park            Ewa Beach, HI.
Ed Sorbo                   55.28        84.66 mph     WERA Sprint
1993 Yamaha TZ 250               9-11-94              Ed Sorbo

Heartland Park Topeka          Topeka, KS.
Scott Russell              1:45.656     85.182 mph    AMA Superbike
1990 Kawasaki ZX-7               9-9-90               Gary Medley   

Indianapolis Raceway Park      Indianapolis, IN.
David Sadowski             1:34.64      95.099 mph    WERA F-USA
1994 Honda CBR 900RR             7-24-94              Mike Velasco

Laguna Seca Raceway            Monterey, CA.
Kevin Schwantz             1:25.838     92.099 mph    USGP 1990
Suzuki RGVr 500                  4-8-90               Simon Tonge   

Las Vegas Speedrome            Las Vegas, NV.
Chuck Graves               0:58.80      91.836 mph    AMA-CCS Sprint
1993 Suzuki GSXR 1100            9-5-93               Chuck Graves

Memphis Motorsports Park       Millington, TN.
Kevin Schwantz             1:07.07      95.008 mph    AMA Superbike
1987 Suzuki GSXR 750             8-9-87               Don Sakakura

Miami Street Circuit           Miami, FL.
Freddie Spencer            1:14.184     73.277 mph    AMA Superbike
1991 Honda RC 30                 10-9-91              Mike Velasco

Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course        Lexington, OH.
Colin Edwards              1:29.176     96.887 mph    US Superbike
1994 Yamaha YZF 750              7-16-94            Mitch Leonard/Jim Leonard

Moroso Motorsports Park        W. Palm Beach, FL.
Rich Oliver                1:20.00      101.275 mph   WERA F-USA
1990 Yamaha YZR 500              9-22-91              Brian Turfrey

Mountain View Park             Longmont, CO.
Mark Schellinger           1:02.14      98.493 mph    MRA Sprint
1993 Yamaha OW01/FZR1000         7-31-94              Mark Schellinger

Nelson Ledges Road Course      Garrettsville, OH.
Tom Kipp                   1:11.40      100.84 mph    WERA Sprint
1990 Suzuki GSXR 1100            9-2-90               Dave Schlosser

New Hampshire Int'l Raceway    Loudon, NH.
Troy Corser                1:14.109     77.723 mph    US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955                  6-18-94              Eraldo Ferracci

North Carolina Motor Speedway  Rockingham, NC.
Mike Harth                 1:01.04      88.469 mph    WERA Sprint
1988 Suzuki GSXR 1100            5-29-88              Jim LaBine

Oak Hill Raceway               Henderson, TX.
Colin Edwards              1:25.99      75.366 mph    CRRC Sprint
1994 Yamaha YZF 750              5-1-94               Kevin Stasny

Phoenix Int'l                  Raceway  Phoenix, AZ.
Troy Corser                1:02.532     86.931 mph    US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955                  3-26-94              Eraldo Ferracci

Pocono Int'l Raceway           Long Pond, PA.
Michael Martin             1:33.40      96.363 mph    WERA F-USA
1992 Suzuki GSXR 1100            8-23-92              Keith Perry

Pomona Fairplex                Pomona, CA.
Troy Corser                1:22.50      91.636 mph    US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955                  4-10-94              Eraldo Ferracci

Portland Int'l Raceway         Portland, OR.
David Sadowski             1:06.60      103.783 mph   WERA F-USA
1994 Honda CBR 900RR             8-28-94              Mike Velasco

Pueblo Motorsports Park        Pueblo, CO.
Don Hough                  1:35.29      85.004 mph    MRA Sprint
1991 Yamaha FZR 1000             7-11-93              Ron Hough

Putnam Park Road Course        Mt. Meridian, IN.
Tray Batey                 1:13.50      88.16 mph     WERA Sprint
1994 Suzuki GSXR 1100            7-10-94              Keith Perry

Road America                   Elkart Lake, WI.
Pascal Picotte             2:15.993     105.888 mph   US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955                  6-10-94              Eraldo Ferracci

Road Atlanta                   Braselton, GA.
Colin Edwards              1:21.409     111.437 mph   US Superbike
1994 Yamaha YZF 750              9-17-94            Jim Leonard/Mitch Leonard

Roebling Road Raceway          Faulkville, GA.
Scott Russell              1:15.56      100.08 mph    WERA Sprint
1988 Suzuki GSXR 1100            4-30-89              Vic Fasola

Sears Point Raceway            Sonoma, CA.
Troy Corser                1:40.855     89.237 mph    US Superbike
1994 Ducati 955                  8-20-94              Eraldo Ferracci

Seattle Int'l Raceway          Kent, WA.
Keith Pinkstaff            1:28.30      92.12 mph     WMRRA Sprint
1994 Kawasaki ZX-7               6-12-94              Zlock Bros

Sebring Int'l Raceway          Sebring, FL.
Rick Herndon               1:27.30      74.23 mph     FGPRA Sprint
1989 Suzuki GSXR 1100            6-25-89              Rick Herndon

Second Creek Raceway           Denver, CO.
Don Hough                  1:09.92      90.105 mph    MRA Sprint
1991 Yamaha FZR 1000             10-3-93              Ron Hough

Steamboat Springs              Steamboat Springs, CO.
Don Hough                  1:22.48      69.82 mph     MRA Sprint
1994 Yamaha TZ 250               9-18-94              Ron Hough

Summit Point Raceway           Summit Point, WV.
Glenn Szarek               1:18.33      91.92 mph     WERA Sprint
1994 Yamaha FZR 1000             5-1-94               Glenn Szarek

Talladega Gran Prix Raceway    Talladega, AL.
Tray Batey                 0:57.65      81.182 mph    SESBRA track day
1993 Yamaha YZF 1000             11-3-93              Robert Nutt

Talladega Super Speedway       Talladega, AL.
Jamie James                2:06.50      113.83 mph    AMA-CCS Endur
1989 Suzuki GSXR 1100            10-15-89             George Fitz

Texas World Speedway           College Station, TX.
Freddie Spencer            1:07.264     96.337 mph    AMA Superbike
Honda RC 30                      5-29-92              Mike Velasco

Watkins Glen Int'l             Watkins Glen, NY.
Jeff James                 1:32.34      93.56 mph     WERA Sprint
1986 Yamaha FZ 750               8-2-86               Jeff James

Wheels Raceway                 San Angelo, TX.
Michael Martin             1:26.66      83.083 mph    CRRC Sprint
1990 Yamaha FZR 600              9-30-90              Ron Scrima

Willow Springs Raceway         Rosamond, CA.
Chuck Graves               1:24.50      106.511 mph   WSMC Sprint
1993 Suzuki GSXR 1100            12-18-94             Tony Romo

Wisconsin State Fairgrounds    Milwaukee, WI.
Ray Yoder                  1:18.68      77.80 mph      WERA Sprint
1988 Suzuki GSXR 1100            7-9-88                Ray Yoder



Fastest Tracks
1. Daytona Int'l Speedway         116.437 mph
2. Talladega Super Speedway       113.830 mph
3. Road Atlanta                   111.437 mph
4. Brainerd Int'l Raceway         108.154 mph
5. Willow Springs                 106.511 mph


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