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Started by ghost05, February 06, 2008, 07:42:07 PM

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Woofentino Pugrossi

Ya know Jim you just made yourself a target for Burt in tech. :lmao:
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Quote from: Woofentino Pugrossi on February 16, 2008, 01:27:56 AM
Ya know Jim you just made yourself a target for Burt in tech. :lmao:

Nah....  Larry's the one who likes to shoot fish in a barrel!

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Quote from: Z-man on February 15, 2008, 11:57:03 AM
The painter I guess painted the number plates with a little neon color in it.

I was gonna paint my plates in flourescent yellow (I swear I read that it is suggested somewhere...) and looking back at the rule book, I can't find anything prohibiting it... what ground do they have to stand on? Isn't any shade/tone of yellow, still yellow?

Eric Kelcher

Yellow has no adjectives or combinations, flourescent yellow is not yellow, neither is yellow blue (ie Green) or yellow red (orange) extremes  I know but yellow is a primary color it has no other colors added to it or missing from it.
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Quote from: Eric Kelcher on February 17, 2008, 07:04:05 PM
Yellow has no adjectives or combinations, flourescent yellow is not yellow, neither is yellow blue (ie Green) or yellow red (orange) extremes  I know but yellow is a primary color it has no other colors added to it or missing from it.

This is too hard - can I move up to Expert so that I can have white plates?

Seriously, though...

...to say that yellow is a "primary color," is partially a true statement.  It is a primary color in subtractive processes, such as four-part printing, where the primary colors are cyan, magenta, yellow, and black.  In additive processes, such as projection (e.g., older CRT monitors/tv's) the primary colors are red, green blue - they create colors by projecting these three primary colors in different quantities.  In the subtractive process, a pigment is used (some combination of the four primaries) to subract the undesired wavelengths of light.  Definitions of "primary colors" are arbitrary, or perhaps a better word would be "relative," as the definition of primary depends on the object receiving or manipulating the wavelengths of light in question.  For human eyes, there are 3 receptors, called "cone cells," which detect red, green, and blue.  There is no property of light that makes colors primary or secondary - it's simply how the colors are defined by the object receiving or producing them.

So yellow is a primary color of the subtractive CMYK process, but it is actually a "pigment" since it works by NOT absorbing the wavelengths that our eyes perceive as yellow (and absorbing everything else).  Since painting a fairing is applying a pigment, the important thing to note is that "yellow" can be defined as what we see from light of the wavelength between 570-580nm, or some appropriate other combination of other wavelengths, i.e., the only wavelengths that are NOT absorbed by the paint being used.  That is the yellow defined as the primary color "yellow" in CMYK or four-part processes.

This is most often referred to as Process, Printer's, or Pigment Yellow.  I believe that Canary Yellow is the colloquial nomenclature.

So yes, this is a long winded way of saying that Eric Kelcher is correct - when you paint your fairings, get a paint that corresponds with the above (or move up to Expert and use white).  Get a basic, standard yellow, that eliminates all wavelengths other than 570-580nm :), i.e., Process/Painters/Pigment/Canary Yellow.  Any body-shop or paint supply will know what to give you.  If you use vinyl instead, same thing.  The vinyl manufacturer's will know what is "true" yellow.  And if you use paint, make sure to use enough coats so that whatever color is underneath doesn't modify the appearance of the yellow.

Like I said, I hope I make Expert this year...of course, then I'll have to decide between Egg Shell, Ivory, Cream, etc... :)

Sorry for the long-winded monologue.

ghost05

Quote from: kl3640 on February 17, 2008, 08:27:08 PM
This is too hard - can I move up to Expert so that I can have white plates?

Seriously, though...

...to say that yellow is a "primary color," is partially a true statement.  It is a primary color in subtractive processes, such as four-part printing, where the primary colors are cyan, magenta, yellow, and black.  In additive processes, such as projection (e.g., older CRT monitors/tv's) the primary colors are red, green blue - they create colors by projecting these three primary colors in different quantities.  In the subtractive process, a pigment is used (some combination of the four primaries) to subract the undesired wavelengths of light.  Definitions of "primary colors" are arbitrary, or perhaps a better word would be "relative," as the definition of primary depends on the object receiving or manipulating the wavelengths of light in question.  For human eyes, there are 3 receptors, called "cone cells," which detect red, green, and blue.  There is no property of light that makes colors primary or secondary - it's simply how the colors are defined by the object receiving or producing them.

So yellow is a primary color of the subtractive CMYK process, but it is actually a "pigment" since it works by NOT absorbing the wavelengths that our eyes perceive as yellow (and absorbing everything else).  Since painting a fairing is applying a pigment, the important thing to note is that "yellow" can be defined as what we see from light of the wavelength between 570-580nm, or some appropriate other combination of other wavelengths, i.e., the only wavelengths that are NOT absorbed by the paint being used.  That is the yellow defined as the primary color "yellow" in CMYK or four-part processes.

This is most often referred to as Process, Printer's, or Pigment Yellow.  I believe that Canary Yellow is the colloquial nomenclature.

So yes, this is a long winded way of saying that Eric Kelcher is correct - when you paint your fairings, get a paint that corresponds with the above (or move up to Expert and use white).  Get a basic, standard yellow, that eliminates all wavelengths other than 570-580nm :), i.e., Process/Painters/Pigment/Canary Yellow.  Any body-shop or paint supply will know what to give you.  If you use vinyl instead, same thing.  The vinyl manufacturer's will know what is "true" yellow.  And if you use paint, make sure to use enough coats so that whatever color is underneath doesn't modify the appearance of the yellow.

Like I said, I hope I make Expert this year...of course, then I'll have to decide between Egg Shell, Ivory, Cream, etc... :)

Sorry for the long-winded monologue.

WOW, do we have a nomination process for best post??? LOL, that was awesom!

...so then, plain yellow it is I guess...

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Quote from: kl3640 on February 17, 2008, 08:27:08 PM
This is too hard - can I move up to Expert so that I can have white plates?

Seriously, though...

...to say that yellow is a "primary color," is partially a true statement.  It is a primary color in subtractive processes, such as four-part printing, where the primary colors are cyan, magenta, yellow, and black.  In additive processes, such as projection (e.g., older CRT monitors/tv's) the primary colors are red, green blue - they create colors by projecting these three primary colors in different quantities.  In the subtractive process, a pigment is used (some combination of the four primaries) to subract the undesired wavelengths of light.  Definitions of "primary colors" are arbitrary, or perhaps a better word would be "relative," as the definition of primary depends on the object receiving or manipulating the wavelengths of light in question.  For human eyes, there are 3 receptors, called "cone cells," which detect red, green, and blue.  There is no property of light that makes colors primary or secondary - it's simply how the colors are defined by the object receiving or producing them.

So yellow is a primary color of the subtractive CMYK process, but it is actually a "pigment" since it works by NOT absorbing the wavelengths that our eyes perceive as yellow (and absorbing everything else).  Since painting a fairing is applying a pigment, the important thing to note is that "yellow" can be defined as what we see from light of the wavelength between 570-580nm, or some appropriate other combination of other wavelengths, i.e., the only wavelengths that are NOT absorbed by the paint being used.  That is the yellow defined as the primary color "yellow" in CMYK or four-part processes.

This is most often referred to as Process, Printer's, or Pigment Yellow.  I believe that Canary Yellow is the colloquial nomenclature.

So yes, this is a long winded way of saying that Eric Kelcher is correct - when you paint your fairings, get a paint that corresponds with the above (or move up to Expert and use white).  Get a basic, standard yellow, that eliminates all wavelengths other than 570-580nm :), i.e., Process/Painters/Pigment/Canary Yellow.  Any body-shop or paint supply will know what to give you.  If you use vinyl instead, same thing.  The vinyl manufacturer's will know what is "true" yellow.  And if you use paint, make sure to use enough coats so that whatever color is underneath doesn't modify the appearance of the yellow.

Like I said, I hope I make Expert this year...of course, then I'll have to decide between Egg Shell, Ivory, Cream, etc... :)

Sorry for the long-winded monologue.

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Quote from: 2old2fat2slow on February 17, 2008, 09:45:49 PM
That was a post Carl Sagen,Steven Hawking, and Professor Irwin Corey would have been proud of.

Nah, he never used photon, and he defined the light by wavelength rather than frequency.
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Quote from: kl3640 on February 17, 2008, 08:27:08 PM...to say that yellow is a "primary color," is partially a true statement.  It is a primary color in subtractive processes, such as four-part printing, where the primary colors are cyan, magenta, yellow, and black.  In additive processes, such as projection (e.g., older CRT monitors/tv's) the primary colors are red, green blue - they create colors by projecting these three primary colors in different quantities.  In the subtractive process, a pigment is used (some combination of the four primaries) to subract the undesired wavelengths of light.  Definitions of "primary colors" are arbitrary, or perhaps a better word would be "relative," as the definition of primary depends on the object receiving or manipulating the wavelengths of light in question.  For human eyes, there are 3 receptors, called "cone cells," which detect red, green, and blue.  There is no property of light that makes colors primary or secondary - it's simply how the colors are defined by the object receiving or producing them.

So yellow is a primary color of the subtractive CMYK process, but it is actually a "pigment" since it works by NOT absorbing the wavelengths that our eyes perceive as yellow (and absorbing everything else).  Since painting a fairing is applying a pigment, the important thing to note is that "yellow" can be defined as what we see from light of the wavelength between 570-580nm, or some appropriate other combination of other wavelengths, i.e., the only wavelengths that are NOT absorbed by the paint being used.  That is the yellow defined as the primary color "yellow" in CMYK or four-part processes.

So yes, this is a long winded way of saying that Eric Kelcher is correct - when you paint your fairings, get a paint that corresponds with the above (or move up to Expert and use white).  Get a basic, standard yellow, that eliminates all wavelengths other than 570-580nm :), i.e., Process/Painters/Pigment/Canary Yellow.  Any body-shop or paint supply will know what to give you.  If you use vinyl instead, same thing.  The vinyl manufacturer's will know what is "true" yellow.  And if you use paint, make sure to use enough coats so that whatever color is underneath doesn't modify the appearance of the yellow.


Also, all that above being said; There is no reference to how bright or dark, the amount of light reflected, the yellow is...  :banghead:
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