For All The Rotella T Folks...I have a ?

[Garywc]

you guys are all crazy   oil is oil it don't matter what you run
i have run everything from the cheapest oil to over $100 a case oil and theres no difference in air cooled bikes and water cooled bikes stock motors and bikes with supersport motors.

[PolishPete]

Thanks for the info guys.  Didn't mean to start another oil war thread, but there's still some good info here.

[mdr14]

Rotella is garbage for 13000 - 16000 rpm motorcycles. Its made for diesels that rev to 3500 rpm or whatever a diesel revs to. Make your engine builder rich and use it.

[rwracer]

Dude you should really do some reading....  let me guess, you use Mobil 1   

[mdr14]

I hate to do this... but:

from shell's web site

Shell Lubricants has introduced Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™  technology, a new and improved formulation designed to meet the new API CJ-4 service category for heavy-duty diesel engine oils.
Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology meets or exceeds API CJ-4 specifications in part due to an exclusive detergent system designed for outstanding control of piston deposits in 2007 engines," says Dan Arcy, Technical Marketing Manager for Shell Lubricants. "We also expect that Owner/Operators and Fleet Maintenance technicians will be able to visibly notice the outstanding wear protection for valve train components."


In addition, Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology is formulated with 30 percent more active ashless chemistry for outstanding protection against deposits and sludge.   Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology features a unique detergent system exclusive to Shell designed for outstanding control of high temperature piston deposit.



New Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology was designed to optimize the durability and performance of DPFs (diesel particulate filters).  Overall, the lower ash content in the oil will mean the DPF will potentially need to be cleaned less often which can mean lower maintenance costs.  Another benefit is it helps maintain fuel economy.



Of course, Shell ROTELLA® T with Triple Protection™ technology continues to offer outstanding performance in other areas, including resistance to viscosity loss due to shear down and soot induced thickening to help maintain consistent viscosity throughout the maintenance interval.



Shell Lubricants has introduced Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology, a new and improved formulation designed to meet the new API CJ-4 service category for heavy-duty diesel engine oils. Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection Technology™ provides significantly lower wear, exceptional deposit control and engine cleanliness for both pre-2007 engines and the latest performance and emissions systems technology found on new 2007 truck engines.



"Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology meets or exceeds API CJ-4 specifications in part due to an exclusive detergent system designed for outstanding control of piston deposits in 2007 engines," says Dan Arcy, Technical Marketing Manager for Shell Lubricants. "We also expect that Owner/Operators and Fleet Maintenance technicians will be able to visibly notice the outstanding wear protection for valve train components."



Based on extensive industry recognized engine wear tests done by Shell Lubricants, Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology provides on average 50 percent greater wear protection (ranging from 27% to 88% reduced wear) than the previous formulation. These laboratory based findings are backed up by the results of over 5.5  million miles of on-highway road testing using current generation engines in which significantly lower iron wear was found.



"We were very pleased with the way the new Shell ROTELLA® T with Triple Protection™ technology performed in key industry tests, such as the Cummins ISM tests where it  scored maximum merits for wear-protection," says Arcy.  "For example in the Cummins ISM engine test, valve adjuster screws showed less wear and scratching."



In addition, Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology is formulated with 30 percent more active ashless chemistry for outstanding protection against deposits and sludge.   Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology features a unique detergent system exclusive to Shell designed for outstanding control of high temperature piston deposit.



New Shell ROTELLA®T with Triple Protection™ technology was designed to optimize the durability and performance of DPFs (diesel particulate filters).  Overall, the lower ash content in the oil will mean the DPF will potentially need to be cleaned less often which can mean lower maintenance costs.  Another benefit is it helps maintain fuel economy.



Of course, Shell ROTELLA® T with Triple Protection™ technology continues to offer outstanding performance in other areas, including resistance to viscosity loss due to shear down and soot induced thickening to help maintain consistent viscosity throughout the maintenance interval.

[weggieman]

I believe Rotella has gasoline and diesel blends. I use the diesel in my truck. 

[Sig]

As long as it can stand up to the extra sheering that a motorcycle puts on an oil, it should be fine.

[resurection]

I believe the tighter tolerances used in manufacturing these day is the idea behind the oil vis. as they fit into the thinner space  between moving parts .
They change vis. as the oil molecules heat  they get longer and will then need a larger hole to flow threw and more time.
I'm not a chemist but I believe I was awake in class that day the FAA has some pretty good guide lines on the subject.

But those classes were 25yrs ago and I did sleep threw some .

[Hollywood]

Use manufacturer recommended oil, both in winter (W) and viscosity rating. Period. Manufacturers put recommendations in the manuals for a reason. And if you thik they only design the motors to live under full rpm rev for short periods of time, think again. All bikes get rev and temp tested before they leave the factory. If the motor is built (by a builder, not you and some buds in a garage), ask the builder. If it blows up due to shear, scorching or lack of lubrication protection based on his recommendations, he'll be busy for a few days.

I think a really important point to put out there is changing your oil often enough (filter too, when you can) after extended periods of "abuse" to include really hot weather, engine loading (Dyno use), and wide open spin ups for duration to revlimit point. Changing your oil helps rid the motor from sulphuric acid, a byproduct of conventional and semi synthetic blends over time. The acid is what really does the damage to the motor over time due to heat and moisture accumulation. Keeping that protection as fresh as possible is key to helping your motor go the distance. Instead of worrying so much about the right numbers and which viscosity will give you a few more (suspected) horsepower, focus on making your engine going the distance. It'll be less expensive for you and you'll enjoy the track a lot longer.

Just so people know, I work for BG Products and Services (an oil company) and have been involved with their company for about 4 years. I've been to school for oils and other petroleum products, and I've still managed to remain fairly objective when it comes to saying which oil works better than another. The DATA will set you free! When considering an oil, do some research and ask to see a TFOUT (ASTM) test performed on the oil you are thinking about using. Sometimes the results will surprise you! It's not always the most expensive brand that comes out on, or even near, the top!

For what it's worth, those who are skeptical of what I've said and think that BG is just snake oil, there are currently 3 AMA Superbike and Superstock teams that are using and are very pleased with BGs' oils and lubricants.

Good luck in your decision, original poster! I hope I have helped some!

[Dr. Evil]

For around $3/Qt, Shell Rotella T syn gets my money. 
After a weekend of pavement scortching, I drop it out of the sump and put it in my clunker car.  Maybe if I were racing I would be more particular or if I had more money tied up in my bike.  But I do ride hard (clutchless downshifts, bouncing off the limiter) I just make sure I am up to temp before I let the mezmorizing buzz of the engine start my wrist a twitching.

[Super Dave]

For what it's worth, those who are skeptical of what I've said and think that BG is just snake oil, there are currently 3 AMA Superbike and Superstock teams that are using and are very pleased with BGs' oils and lubricants.

HATER!!!!!




Actually, the BG stuff is pretty good.  I have BG transmission oil in my bus.  Good stuff.

[Sig]

BG needs an ad department. I'd never heard of the stuff till today.

What up Hollywood? :) You going to CMP?