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For All The Rotella T Folks...I have a ?

Started by PolishPete, March 29, 2008, 10:37:12 PM

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Noidly1

Quote from: Sig on April 03, 2008, 02:29:38 PM
BG needs an ad department. I'd never heard of the stuff till today.

BG is known in the automotive industry. Most of their products are shop oriented, i.e. You can't get their stuff at retail parts stores. http://www.bgprod.com/home.html

'08 R6, CCSGP44EX

Hollywood

Quote from: Sig on April 03, 2008, 02:29:38 PM
BG needs an ad department. I'd never heard of the stuff till today.

What up Hollywood? :) You going to CMP?
Hey Sig, absolutely! I'm driving down Thurs with the rest of the mob. Doing the practice day Fri and looking forward to getting back in the saddle. It's been a loooong winter, I can't wait for this year bro! What about you?

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Team_Serpent

It's funny, everytime "the oil question" comes around nobody ever discusses how the different oils compair against each other in regards to performance gain ....... as in horse power.  You guys go right ahead and run the best oil you can find that's cheap, or pour over the white papers and draw your conclusions as to which is the best oil.  

I'll take the performance advantage any day - Motul 300V, dyno proven. 



 

Super Dave

Super Dave

Sig

Quote from: Hollywood on April 03, 2008, 05:20:04 PM
Hey Sig, absolutely! I'm driving down Thurs with the rest of the mob. Doing the practice day Fri and looking forward to getting back in the saddle. It's been a loooong winter, I can't wait for this year bro! What about you?

Unfortunately not. Trying to do the responsible thing and buy a house. Right now I'm looking at my first racing being either VIR or Barber. I will be at CMP saturday to pick up some stuff from last year though......plus I need to give Joel hell for not going faster on his pretty new bike. :)

Noidly1

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Just an FYI;;

For those that are familar with Falicon, they used to require their cranks to be broke in with Kendall or no warranty...
The brand name, Kendall, was sold and the formula dropped.

The original producer, http://www.amref.com, makes the origional formula under the brand, http://www.bradpennracing.com.

Break in oil;
http://www.bradpennracing.com/Products/BIO30.html
Racing oils;
http://www.bradpennracing.com/Products/SAE0W30.html
http://www.bradpennracing.com/Products/SAE10W30.html
http://www.bradpennracing.com/Products/SAE20W50.html

Several years ago the Fed Gubmit reduced the amount of metals that can be in oil.
Zinc being one of them was the worst casualty...
Under rules, retail oils could not contain more than % metals however, that is not the case with true Racing, non-retail oils.
'08 R6, CCSGP44EX

rogers1323

Quote from: Sig on April 03, 2008, 05:33:27 PM
Unfortunately not. Trying to do the responsible thing and buy a house. Right now I'm looking at my first racing being either VIR or Barber. I will be at CMP saturday to pick up some stuff from last year though......plus I need to give Joel hell for not going faster on his pretty new bike. :)

I haven't even shown up in this thread and I'm still getting called out?  What the hell.  Why don't you hang out for Sunday and pit crew for me with my pretty new bike in the solo challenge?  I'm trying to get some good seat time this weekend....

Sig

I knew you'd show up in the thread!! :)  I just might do that, I'll have to see if I can get off work Sunday.

Hollywood

Quote from: Team_Serpent on April 03, 2008, 05:23:57 PM
It's funny, everytime "the oil question" comes around nobody ever discusses how the different oils compair against each other in regards to performance gain ....... as in horse power.  You guys go right ahead and run the best oil you can find that's cheap, or pour over the white papers and draw your conclusions as to which is the best oil.  

I'll take the performance advantage any day - Motul 300V, dyno proven. 



 

well if that were really the case then why isn't everyone using it? I find that pretty interesting. I mean, what the heck were all of those AMA Superbike teams doing? Bunch of rookies, apparently.

Quick, tell them to use the oil you do and they will make more horsepower! Maybe that is the missing key to  what we need to even the playing field in that series. You are a GENIUS, my friend!

There will never be a published test in a controlled (ASTM) style environment to "prove" which oil makes more power. There are too many variables that could be disputed by all of the companies that do not place at the top.Don't you think every motorcycle performance mag would be all over a dyno shootout of which oil is the best? Imagine the under the table antics involved with that whole process.......

Use your brain.
ASRA/CCS EX#20  
www.rpmmotorsportsracing.com

Team_Serpent

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Quote from: Hollywood on April 06, 2008, 12:29:46 AM
well if that were really the case then why isn't everyone using it?

Well that is the case and good question.

Quote from: Hollywood on April 06, 2008, 12:29:46 AMI find that pretty interesting. I mean, what the heck were all of those AMA Superbike teams doing?

A lot of AMA teams (including this one) are using Motul.

Quote from: Hollywood on April 06, 2008, 12:29:46 AM
Quick, tell them to use the oil you do and they will make more horsepower!

Some of the best engine builders in the AMA paddock are the ones who told me. And yes I've tested it myself  

Quote from: Hollywood on April 06, 2008, 12:29:46 AM
There will never be a published test in a controlled (ASTM) style environment to "prove" which oil makes more power. There are too many variables that could be disputed by all of the companies that do not place at the top.Don't you think every motorcycle performance mag would be all over a dyno shootout of which oil is the best? Imagine the under the table antics involved with that whole process.......

I don't need a published test, if you do then you can wait for it.

Quote from: Hollywood on April 06, 2008, 12:29:46 AM
Use your brain.

If you want to be a dick that's your choice, I always use my brain. 

Believe what you want, do what you want, it doesn't make any difference to me.

ktd

I have a sample of Rotella down stairs that I need to send away for analysis.  I ran it in a RC51 for an entire season without changing it.  Did it year before last with changing it twice then sent it away for analysis.  Came back looking great and they said I could have run it longer.

Super Dave

Quote from: Hollywood on April 06, 2008, 12:29:46 AMI mean, what the heck were all of those AMA Superbike teams doing? Bunch of rookies, apparently.
Don't confuse sponsorships with product at that level. 

Stickers, patches, and endorcements are about cash, and they do not necessarily represent products that are available to the public, or even the well connected, can buy.


Rotella's a good oil.  Won't hurt a motorcycle engine even in long term racing used.  As KTD even says, a UOA shows that is was excellent even in a motorcycle application.  If there were wear problems, UOA would pick it up.  If there were problems with the oil, UOA would pick it up.

There is no magic bullet.
Super Dave