Anyone Boycotting French products?

[TreyBone]

Here is how I see it.
We gotta go over there and do that, so we can do this.

[Woofentino Pugrossi]

Saddam have to smuggle a weapon to our shores to attack us.

Thats easier than you think.

[r6_philly]

Thats easier than you think.

Well, not as easy as North Korea can...

[r6_philly]

Dafan,

First of all, you will not "outhistory" me on facts.  Let's not even go there.... ;)

Sure we sold weapons to all those countries, at one time or another, in the past .  We have also fought wars and sold weapons to Canada, Mexico, Italy, Germany, to name a few and quite a few other countries in the past .  Does that have any bearing on our policy toward them now?

Different times and situations call for different policies.  It's true that the US has been inconsistent with various small countries...but why shouldn't the US pursue policies in its own best interests, whatever they may be at that time?  How else is the US supposed to formulate policy???

As for the French, since that was the original subject, still no word from you on their continuing to supply weapons to our enemies .  this alone is reason enough to eat "Freedom Fries" :)

North Korea should not be a US problem alone, it should be a Chinese, Russian, US, S Korean, Japanese, etc.. problem.  The US, correctly so, refuses to make it a 1 on 1 situation, or be bullied by a crazy 3rd world dictator, nuclear weapons and million person army notwithstanding.  If the US did give in to their demands, then the lesson for the world would be to develop WMD and huge armies for no other purpose than to shake down the US for more aid.  So, the US stance is MULTI_LATERAL talks.

Actaully we are getting sidetracked on to this issue...

the only problem I have with the current call for war is the fact that Bush openly announced that UN's decision doesn't matter. I totally support the call for war, and think that Iraq should be occupied and made into a oil supply territory, but I just think there should be another way to go about this.

And as it stands tonight, I am glad Bush had backed down from pushing on that resolution, and maybe is willing to work with the rest of the world on disarming Iraq and rid that maniac.

I hate to see that we take apart the Statue of Liberty and send her back to France in little pieces  ;D

[GPgofast]

...except for one minor point, the MICHELINS on MY bike are MADE in SPAIN!!! I beleive they are one of the US's greatest allies if I'm not mistaken. I will continue to run SPANISH MADE MICHELINS ON MY RACEBIKE!!! If you boycott Michelin you will be hurting an American ally. GP

[GPgofast]

But I will NOT be buying anymore "Made in France" AFAM sprockets. I do personally believe France is no longer a USA ally and as an American, I will not support a country that outwardly and forcebly undermines Americans safety. GP

[mj]

most reports that i have read, even those from our own cia, state that an american attack on iraq will only increase the odds of terrorist attacks in america.

i also read that france has been one of america's staunchest allies in our fight against terrorism

[GSXR RACER MIKE]

most reports that i have read, even those from our own cia, state that an american attack on iraq will only increase the odds of terrorist attacks in america.

     Though I believe that the likelyhood of a retalitory attack on the U.S. (if we attack Iraq) is a definate possibility, I also believe that if we do nothing that the U.S. or it's Allies will still be attacked in the very near future. France does not have the current defensive interest in eliminating terrorists that we do and therefore if they choose to not only not get involved, but ultimately stand in our way by veto power, they will show that they do not object to the actions of people like Saddam and are not worthy as targets of terrorism themselves in the future (therefore protecting there own butts). Unfortunately if we take advantage of this luxury of looking the other way we will probably still be attacked by people that Iraq supports.
     This morning on Fox News they were talking about Mexico's lack of backing the U.S. in our present situation with Iraq and why the media has not also jumped on them like they have the French. Some of the reasons for not jumping down Mexico's throat were really lame. They included; the proximity of Mexico to the U.S., the number of people in the U.S. of Mexican decent, and business relations with Mexico. Not long ago Mexico stated that they were the #1 backer of U.S. policy and stand behind our actions, but where are they now?
     I also saw an interesting statement that I would like to pass along that came out of the White House recently, it was in reference to the U.S. wanting to invade Iraq because of it's oil. They said; "If we were interested in getting cheaper oil from Iraq all we had to do was drop our sanctions that we've had against them for the last 12 years and we could be getting oil from them for alot cheaper. Our goal is not to get cheaper oil, but to give Iraq the ability to become a Democratic nation as Afghanistan is doing, and rid the world of people like Saddam who use terror as a daily tool against his own people.". And in response to the current rise in oil prices they attributed that to the circumstances currently in South America's oil production and showed figures that Iraq provides less than 10% of our oil.

[r6_philly]

    Though I believe that the likelyhood of a retalitory attack on the U.S. (if we attack Iraq) is a definate possibility, I also believe that if we do nothing that the U.S. or it's Allies will still be attacked in the very near future. France does not have the current defensive interest in eliminating terrorists that we do and therefore if they choose to not only not get involved, but ultimately stand in our way by veto power, they will show that they do not object to the actions of people like Saddam and are not worthy as targets of terrorism themselves in the future (therefore protecting there own butts). Unfortunately if we take advantage of this luxury of looking the other way we will probably still be attacked by people that Iraq supports.
     This morning on Fox News they were talking about Mexico's lack of backing the U.S. in our present situation with Iraq and why the media has not also jumped on them like they have the French. Some of the reasons for not jumping down Mexico's throat were really lame. They included; the proximity of Mexico to the U.S., the number of people in the U.S. of Mexican decent, and business relations with Mexico. Not long ago Mexico stated that they were the #1 backer of U.S. policy and stand behind our actions, but where are they now?
     I also saw an interesting statement that I would like to pass along that came out of the White House recently, it was in reference to the U.S. wanting to invade Iraq because of it's oil. They said; "If we were interested in getting cheaper oil from Iraq all we had to do was drop our sanctions that we've had against them for the last 12 years and we could be getting oil from them for alot cheaper. Our goal is not to get cheaper oil, but to give Iraq the ability to become a Democratic nation as Afghanistan is doing, and rid the world of people like Saddam who use terror as a daily tool against his own people.". And in response to the current rise in oil prices they attributed that to the circumstances currently in South America's oil production and showed figures that Iraq provides less than 10% of our oil.

The oil prices are not set by the US and even if Iraq produces 3 times the oil, we wouldn't see an decrease in oil price. At least not much.

By the way, if no one noticed, China didn't support the resolution and also threatened veto as well. Does that mean some of you resolve to not buy anything that is made in China?

I believe a country is allowed to "save its own butt" we are not all playing "Following the USA" here, or maybe some of you believe the world should really be, 200+ states of America?

[sdiver68]

Idealist:

Boycott every product from anyone that disagrees with me  ::)

Realist:

Targeted Boycotts  ;D

Right now, France is in the boycott crosshairs, Turkey has lost their $15 billion + financial aid package, and Hussein is about to be deposed.

[duc995@aol.com]

I talked with Dale keifer this past weekend:  he said that he hasn't seen any drop off or heard of any problems selling Michelins in spite if the French thing.

I feel like a hipocrit, because I like Dale and have good results using his products, but I want to do the "right thing".  Maybe I will have to rethink this thing...I don't want the small business middle-man to suffer.  That wouldn't be fair!

[GPgofast]

Not only would the middle man suffer, but also the originator of the tires MADE IN SPAIN.