2010 Race of Champions Venue

[motomaniac]

50F? that could suck.. 60 would not be bad. Where do we vote for the temp?

Road America in April... we don't do it anymore, but I can remember many races where you could barely bend your fingers around the handlebars to hold on.. for just one lap!

Topeka, shouldn't be any worse then Daytona was last fall.  

Come to the true center of the United States.. not the so called center elsewhere...

[SnacktimeKC]

50F? that could suck.. 60 would not be bad. Where do we vote for the temp?

Come on up Greg. Put you gloves on your warmers and you'll be fine.
First beer at Baby Dolls on me!

[CounterSteerer]

If you were already planning on racing in Daytona this year how is driving an additional 300 miles to Homestead going to break you? I am sure the hotels are cheaper and the cost to run the event at Homestead is cheaper than Daytona so I will assume entry fees, parking RV fees, pit pass etc.... will be cheaper. This should offset the cost of the additional 300 miles.

[Greeny]

temp during the day is high 60s, low 70s in oct at heartland.  i dunno where you sallies are getting this 50* BS.  anything over 75 is too hot for a day at the track, anyway ;)

i love how everyone is hanging on to their preferred location by a thread.  lol

[d-wire]

weather.com

[SnacktimeKC]

temp during the day is high 60s, low 70s in oct at heartland.  i dunno where you sallies are getting this 50* BS.  anything over 75 is too hot for a day at the track, anyway ;)

i love how everyone is hanging on to their preferred location by a thread.  lol

I'd rather race in the 60's than the 90's any day.
The averages from NOAA.com

Average Highs and Lows for Topeka in October
Date    Average
High
(deg F)    Average
Low
(deg F)
1st    75    50
2nd    75    49
3rd    74    49
4th    74    48
5th    74    48
6th    73    48
7th    73    47
8th    72    47
9th    72    46
10th    72    46
11th    71    45
12th    71    45
13th    70    45
14th    70    44
15th    70    44
16th    69    44
17th    69    43
18th    68    43
19th    68    42
20th    67    42
21st    67    42
22nd    67    41
23rd    66    41
24th    66    40
25th    65    40
26th    65    40
27th    64    39
28th    64    39
29th    63    39
30th    63    38
31st    62    38

[George_Linhart]

If you were already planning on racing in Daytona this year how is driving an additional 300 miles to Homestead going to break you? I am sure the hotels are cheaper and the cost to run the event at Homestead is cheaper than Daytona so I will assume entry fees, parking RV fees, pit pass etc.... will be cheaper. This should offset the cost of the additional 300 miles.

Basically your answer is that you can't justify the cost of travelling but you expect that we should have no problem to go to a lesser venue and travel an additional 300 miles just  to convenience you?  While I don't get excited about Daytona I get that it is a tradition and this venue is considered a special draw for the ROC.  Since this venue is off the table, why is having the race somewhere centrally located (though not as logistically easy for the Floridians) such a bad thing?  

VIR, Barber, NJMP, Road Atlanta and Mid-Ohio are not an option (although all would be a worthwile if somehow the dates could work).  What is getting me pissed is the sense of entitlement from those who have it easy when we do race at the traditional venue.  How is it always OK for everyone to have to travel to Florida every other year so that the one year that Daytona isn't an option than the only other choice has to be what is convenient for you????

I am not running for a championship so at the end of the day it doesn't matter much to me.  If it is at HPT I will go, otherwise, you Florida locals can have it.

George

[Lucas W120]

heartland park topeka!

[Greeny]

I'd rather race in the 60's than the 90's any day.
The averages from NOAA.com

Average Highs and Lows for Topeka in October
Date    Average
High
(deg F)    Average
Low
(deg F)
1st    75    50
2nd    75    49
3rd    74    49
4th    74    48
5th    74    48
6th    73    48
7th    73    47
8th    72    47
9th    72    46
10th    72    46
11th    71    45
12th    71    45
13th    70    45
14th    70    44
15th    70    44
16th    69    44
17th    69    43
18th    68    43
19th    68    42
20th    67    42
21st    67    42
22nd    67    41
23rd    66    41
24th    66    40
25th    65    40
26th    65    40
27th    64    39
28th    64    39
29th    63    39
30th    63    38
31st    62    38

werd. 

looks like perfect riding weather to me!  a little space heater in your trailer at night will do the trick.

[Gino230]

I may get a negative karma or two for this, but to me- anually hosting the ROC in the same, most extreme location (geographically speaking of course) location makes the "Race of Champions" more like the "Race of Those Who Showed Up".

Very true. I am voting for Homestead. My logic is that at this late date, most people have already made arrangements and those who were planning to attend Daytona will still attend an event at Homestead, since it's only a couple hundred miles difference.

The ROC is always the "race of who showed up", and it will be no different in Topeka. Most of the people from the South / Southeast / East coast will NOT drive 2000 miles to Topeka.

I'm not saying that it will be a smaller event, just different folks.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

[Rick Beggs]

explore  different dates and make it VIR
I already voted HPT, more equal for all, still 20 hrs for me

[Gino230]

Basically your answer is that you can't justify the cost of travelling but you expect that we should have no problem to go to a lesser venue and travel an additional 300 miles just  to convenience you?  While I don't get excited about Daytona I get that it is a tradition and this venue is considered a special draw for the ROC.  Since this venue is off the table, why is having the race somewhere centrally located (though not as logistically easy for the Floridians) such a bad thing?  

VIR, Barber, NJMP, Road Atlanta and Mid-Ohio are not an option (although all would be a worthwile if somehow the dates could work).  What is getting me pissed is the sense of entitlement from those who have it easy when we do race at the traditional venue.  How is it always OK for everyone to have to travel to Florida every other year so that the one year that Daytona isn't an option than the only other choice has to be what is convenient for you????

I am not running for a championship so at the end of the day it doesn't matter much to me.  If it is at HPT I will go, otherwise, you Florida locals can have it.

George

I think his point was that if you were already planning to go to Daytona, the extra couple hundred miles should be negligible. I tend to agree with him.

Wether or not to SCHEDULE the ROC at a different location is a completely different issue. If CCS thinks it's best to have the ROC at a different location, they should schedule it there at the beginning of the season and see what happens. I personally don't think the event will be as popular, for a variety of reasons. Again, separate subject.

The ROC was SCHEDULED for Daytona this year, logically if that venue is unavailable, it should be placed at the closest geographical alternate. 200 miles is pretty close. 2000 is not. I get the feeling that most people who are saying they will only go if the ROC is held in Topeka weren't going to go anyway, so if the race is in Homestead, not much will change.

No matter what, some people are going to be unhappy.